Hi, I am not judging Michael. I didn't mean to infer that he was lazy, that's why I prefaced that with the question as to why conservatism remark got injected into the conversation. But I have to agree this has gotten crazily out of hand, so I don't want you to assume what I'm saying to be bashing you. I simply think you have taken things way out of proportion.
Best Regards, Hayden -----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Weaver Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Are we Done Yet That's my point you don't know michael yet your judging him. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Hayden Presley <hdpres...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > I'd love to know why you're being conservatism into this discussion. I too > am a conservative, and I can say that part of the philosiph of convertaism > relates to not being lazy. As was previously stated, many people who end up > with horrible grammar and speling erros are native English speakrs, and it > is only due ot sheer laziness that they refuse to attempt to type with > better grammar. I do't think we should all have to know how to use who and > whom, but... > > Best Regards, > Hayden > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of Ryan Strunk > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:18 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: [Audyssey] Are we Done Yet > > I come back to the Audyssey list after a few days, and we're flooded with > messages which appear to have been spawned as a result of a few of you > getting your shorts in a twist over typos. Seriously people? And you want to > put proper grammar in the guidelines? Tongue in cheek note: one of the > biggest proponents of doing so is a staunch conservative! You should be > arguing for less moderation, not more. > So look. First and foremost, typos, bad spelling, and bad grammar are not > endemic to blind people. Examples, even websites, abound of typos made by > the Average Joe on a daily basis. I checked. I don't think I need tell > you--though I'm going to anyway because I like the view from my high > horse--that since blind people make up one third of one percent of this > country, there's a 99.7% chance those typos were made by the sighted. In > fact, just as I finished typing the previous sentence, this came across my > Twitter feed: > "Username posted I do believe the customer service rep at my bank meant I > need to add a recipient on my account, not a reciprocant." > Case, meet point. You guys should go grab a cup of coffee or something. Get > to know each other. > So why are we getting so thoroughly riled up about this business of hard to > understand posts? It seems to me that one of the following methods should > solve your problem nicely. > 1. Delete posts from people you can't stand to read. > I'm going to come right out and say that there are about six people on this > who I flatly refuse to read posts from, either because they're posts are > downright hard to read or because they contribute nothing to any > discussion.* You should try it. You'd be amazed how much time and > frustration you'll save yourself. > *The first clause of that paragraph's first sentence contained a hanging > preposition. Sorry about that, but I'm too lazy to fix it. Please don't > start a new thread over it. > 2. Take your frustration off list. > If you're tired of poorly-composed emails and you want something done about > it, try approaching the offender off list with an offer of help. Publically > blasting them for their shortcomings just makes you look petty. Which leads > me to point 3. > 3. GET OVER IT! > This is my favorite method of dealing with the problem, and you wouldn't > believe how much it has cut down on the stress in my life. There are things > in life that are worth getting worked up over, and there are things that are > not. Having a bird flap down to the rock you're chained to and eating your > liver every day should piss you off. Reading poorly-written emails should > not. > I'm going to pick on Dark for a minute because I respect the guy, I know he > can take it, and because he has said himself that he has a lax attitude > toward spelling in informal communication. His lack of properly-doubled > letters used to piss me off to no end, and I would get thoroughly angry when > I read his posts. At some point, though, I realized that, in spite of the > occasional hiccups he gave my speech synthesizer, his writings contained a > great deal of well-reasoned, intelligent material and were worth reading, > warts and all. > Are proper spelling and grammar important? Absolutely--on tests, job > applications, cover letters, grant requests, and any number of other > professional documents. But this list is not a professional document; it's a > hobby.* Treat it as such. Enjoy it. Have fun with it. Don't use it as a > place to vent your frustrations on blind people with poor literacy skills. > *except for those of you who write 30 posts a day. For you, it's a way of > life. > When Jeremy Hartley started the " Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously?" > thread, he dispensed some excellent advice about working with the sighted > public, specifically mainstream developers. Since then, the thread has been > high jacked by people who insist on turning the blind gamers list into > grammar school. If those of you who are guilty of this really want to help > fix the situation, see method 2 above and keep your criticisms off the list. > And if you still can't get over it, go shoot a zombie in the face. It will > be much more productive, and it will save the rest of us the clutter. > Now if you'll pardon me, I'm getting saddle sores. > Ryan > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2108/4088 - Release Date: 12/18/11 > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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