Not really relevant, but will just mention that with regard to phones, and large screens, etc., I think my nokia N82/N86 came with a TV out adapter...LOL!

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- From: "dark" <[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly


I agree tom, prophiteering capitalist scumbags run things unfortunately.

Myself however I disagree with your philosophy of "get it and get used to it" as I've said before, windows 7 would stop! me doing more stuff, so why should I use it?

I use a parrot voice mate, which is one of the finest hand held personal organizers I've ever found, and great for phone numbers, voice notes etc. Should I stop using it becuase the firm that make them have gone bust? Heck no!

of course, if I replace my laptop with an Iphone with voiceover, I'll probably no longer need the parrot voicemate, sinse the Iphone will do most of those functions, but sinse I currently just use a phone that is just a phone, and does nothing fancy, ---- and would cost a lot of money to get a speech synth for it, I'll stick with the voicemate because it works for what I want.

I don't really see why i should get used to doing something just because it is the latest thing and I'll have to change eventually, ---- indeed I'll probably try and keep my desktop going as long as possible and change only if it looks like a better option is available with a newer system.

Btw, I agree about hand helds taking over, however I don't think the desktop pc will be quite gone, simply because of the amount of people who (like myself), use it as a general multimedia device.

i use my pc for watching films, laying games etc, on a decent sized screen connected to a set of speakers, and that is one use that the hand held would never fill simply because the idea of connecting a hand held to a home cinema system or full sized screen is a bit ridiculous.

I think laptops will be a thing of the past, but the desktop I still see as staying around exactly for this reason, even if the ui does irritatingly change.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly



Hi Dark,

Well, I think you know the answer to that already. Microsoft is out to make money, and in order to stay competitive they have to follow whatever trends are popular in the technology market.

Since tablets, smart phones, PDAs, and other handheld devices have become the rave over the last few years simply updating XP won't do. They need to redesign the entire user interface from the ground up for those handheld devices. Since the same technology is being ported to the PC market as well Microsoft is simply building the same interface into the desktop OS as for mobile devices, because its more intuitive for a sighted user. VI users are always going to take a backseat to sighted users simply because intuitive visual user interfaces is what drives the market.

For example, lets assume you have Windows 8 running on a tablet PC. Now, if you are using a touchscreen you can point at a icon on your taskbar, tap it twice with your finger, and open the app up just like that. It doesn't require navigating menus etc as everything you pin to the taskbar is right there just a finger point away. Its intuitive, easy, and I suppose better for sighted users as they don't even need a mouse to point and click on icons to open them up. Its the next generation user interface, and its being driven by people's exposure to Droid and iPhones.

This is just speculation on my part but the way tablet PCs and smart phones are going I look for the standard desktop or laptop to be ancient history by the next decade. Businesses may still continue to use desktop PCs, but the average home user will probably be carrying around tablets running the latest version of Android, iOS, Windows Mobile, Linux, etc just because of the convenience of smaller more handy computers.

My dad who just retired last year doesn't go anywhere without his Droid phone. Its not just a phone for him because I've seen him watch movies on Youtube, play games, take notes on it, browse the web, read e-mail, etc all from his phone. He rarely boots his desktop computer, because he can do most things from his phone. This is happening all over the world right now, and that's a very good reason why XP and other traditional desktop operating systems like it are running on borrowed time. Eventually, the handheld market will push the PC industry into adopting newer interfaces like Windows 8 and touchscreens to remain competitive. Weather we like it or not blind computer users will have to adapt to it sooner or later, because we have little say or choice in the matter.

That's why I use Windows 7 and will likely upgrade to Windows 8 when it comes out. Eventually, I'll have to change and my philosophy is, "better get use to it sooner than later."

Cheers!

On 3/13/2012 7:41 AM, dark wrote:
Yep, once again why can't microsoft just continue xp? :D.

Goodness knows what will happen with access tech and windows 8, it's a shame after very stable access to xp that things are moving in this direction, but once again because vi users are a minority we get the short end of the stick.

I have at least heard that ribbons are so disliked they're coming out of windows 8, and I've also heard windows 8 has 16 bit compatibility, so there are at least a couple of pluses there albeit small ones.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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