Hi Dark,

Smile. Well, that's true enough. We do come at this entire issue from different perspectives,and makes sense when we look at the reasons why or how we use our computers.

You tend to look at this situation strictly as a consumer, an end user, who only cares about playing his movies, writing your thesis, playing music, and some audio games. Which is perfectly valid since XP fulfills all of those needs for you, and as you pointed out Windows 7 won't bring anything really new to the table. So there isn't a pressing need to upgrade at this point.

Believe it or not I do understand where you are coming from because even though I have Windows 7 for business purposes my personal OS of choice is Linux. The main reason is because I have Firefox for browsing the web, Thunderbird for handling e-mail, Pigeon for chatting on AIM and MSN, Totem for playing DVD movies, Rythmbox for playing my mp3s, Libre Office for word/Excel documents, etc. In other words other than a lack of audio games Linux provides all the necessities I need, and costs less for me to own and use. As a result if I were to compare Linux to Windows it offers me more benefits in the long run as an end user and software consumer.

However, how I look at this issue of Windows 7 vs XP is from a software developer and business point of view. If I am going to remain in the technical support and software development field I absolutely must own and use the latest OS so I can serve my clients. As a result I tend to remain fairly up to date with software releases, do market research on what's coming in the future, and prepare for it in advance. Which means I'm always looking at technology from the long view rather than the short view.

To give you an example since I know Windows 8 is supposed to be released later this year it only makes sense as a developer to find out what has changed, what I can do to make my software Windows 8 ready, so if someone runs out and buys it the day after release I know that my products are ready to run on the new OS.

Unfortunately, as a developer sometimes preparing for a new OS or new technology breaks compatibility with older operating systems in existence. If I write a piece of software in VB 2010 using .NET 4.0 it will run on XP, Vista, Windows 7, and run on Windows 8 which comes with .NET 5.0. However, it won't work with Windows 98, Millennium, or 2000. As a developer it would require a major downgrade to .NET 1.1 in order to target those platforms which is one reason why software developers can't continue to support older software forever. Plus how much of a market is there for Windows 98/2000 software anyway?


So in short while you are looking at this in terms of what can you do on Windows 7 you can't do on XP I'm looking at how many people are likely to buy new computers, upgrade to the latest technology, and tend to think strictly in terms of a developer or tech support specialist. That's why I tend to stay on top of technology.At least as far as Windows goes. With Linux I'm more like you preferring to stick with a long term support release simply because I don't want to grab the latest version every six months and don't mind using a version for two or three years unless there is something new such as KDE 4.8 which now has screen reader support and is going to be available for Ubuntu 12.


Cheers!


On 3/14/2012 7:06 AM, dark wrote:
Hi tom.

That makes sense, and if the choice was vista vs 7 i'd probably agree, however for me it's the compatibility issue that is the thing.

For instance, While I've tried both windows live mail, microsoft outlook and thunderbird, nothing I thought was as good as outlook express.

yes, they all came with more features, but seemed to take more navigation to access, ---- for instance if I want a message to a contact in outlook express I just hit tab once from my inbox and bam, there is my contacts list as a dropdown. No mucking about with the address book or anything else.

Does it do conferencing? multi user messages, threaded messages or the fancy stuff? ---- no it doesn't, however when I write mail I don't particularly want any of that, I just want something that lets me read, reply, and write mails quickly and easily, and outlook express does that.

Microsoft however have done their usual and in making the interface fancier for people with working eyeballs and adding billions of other functions, have overcomplicated the task of just writing, receiving and replying to E-mails.

Of course, I'm fairly certain I could get used to using windows messenger or thunderbird, --- -but why should I? the new bennifits aren't things I'd use, and it'd just make what I do currently with outlook express more complex.

The same goes for many other changes. It doesn't matter to me if windows 7 comes with the hooja flip new process speed 3000 upgrade of doom that makes it run 500 times faster and more securely if I can't actually play games, write mail and do the stuff I do on it.

i think that's probably one of the key differences. For me, a windows is just a tool to do other stuff, I don't really care how well or badly the operating system works compared to other stuff around and on the markit, it just depends upon what it does for me personally.

While from what you've described pinning to the taskbar sounds a good idea, and much of rht eannoyences with the interface can be bypassed, ---- do I actually get to do anything new and fun with it? would it let me play more games, play music and audio brouse the net, watch films, do E-mail and write my thesis any better than I do at the second.

The answer currently seems to be a distinct no, sinse most of the games that I play run equally well on windows xp, and indeed some like older 16 bit applications won't run on 7 at all without a virtual machine (though as I said apparently this is changing with windows 8).

Word 2007 is actually easier to use than the upgraded versions, and winamp still works fine. About the only thing that would! make a difference is full 5.1 speaker support, and while I freely admit this would be a good thing, I don't know if it outways all the bad stuff as yet.

Of course, this situation may change in the future. When lots of games come out that I can't run on xp, when a better mail client is available, ---- perhaps when windows 8 actually has the 16 bit compatibility that will let me run fallthru, eamon etc, then is the point I'll considder upgrading.

As for Ios, well sinse I haven't got into game developement yet, that's not as much a concern, and where as there aren't! many games that require windows 7, there is a lot of interesting stuff available for Ios that I haven't been able to play. I wouldn't want to go Ios totally, sinse there would be too many other things I couldn't do, ---- my thesis for instance has to be written in ms word format sinse that's what the philosophy department use, but as long as I had a windows desktop, this wouldn't be an issue.

I suppose this is ultimately a difference in thinking of computers. For me, a computer just takes the place of a lot of other devices, such as a games console (though I do still own my Snes and gamecube, I don't get new games on either), music system, typewriter and dvd player, and I'd only considder a computer to be good or bad relative to those functions, rather than having any intrinsic value in itself.

Btw, a very amusing take on this are the new cybermen in Doctor who. Rather than the old cybermen being people who replaced first their bodies, then their brains with cybernetics for survival, now they are billed as human brains in steel boddies, created as "the next upgrade, human 2.0, with bugs removed and far greater useability" (to quote the actual episode rise of the cybermen). Indeed it was one of the producers stated aimes that the cybermen were almost a play off many people's desire to have the latest and best upgrade, as much as the function they filled in the old series of survival instinct gone mad.

This is again why i like Dr. who, when it's done well it manages to make us take a look at ourselves in a really strange and twisted way.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.

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