Okay now I understand. When Tom was saying "blind people," he was saying "blind people who aren't me." I gather that's what you're doing in the message below, because I know for a fact you're blind, too, and you don't mind a graphic in the game. Thanks for clearing that up. Best, Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:44 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. I can't figure out why blind people don't think there should be at least a little feedback, even if it doesn't aid in the playing of the game, for the sighted gamer. Using that logic, there should be no sound for any game designed for a deaf gamer. Of course, if there were sound, maybe a blind player could play the game, too? But without any sound, the speaker must be broken, right? Same idea. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. > > Hi Ryan, > > Yes, I am certainly blind. However, I wasn't blind my entire life so > perhaps that makes the difference. I know how sighted people think, and I > know how blind people think. So I am in a position to understand both > sides of the argument. However, the problem is that a sighted person knows > no more about what it is like to be blind than a blind person knows what > its like to see so often those people argue from a position of ignorance > of the other party's perspective. > > In a situation like this one I get frustrated with the blind who say > adding icons, graphics, etc to a game is unnecessary. Of course its > unnecessary for a blind player, but since they don't understand how much a > sighted person depends on sight they blithely make statements like they > can learn to play without graphics. While that may be technically true the > fact of the matter is most sighted people will be disinterested in the > game if there aren't any graphics, and even if they do go as far to play a > game by sound they would still want something to look at besides a black > screen. The sooner blind people recognize this the sooner we'll be able to > at least open up dialog between blind game developers and sighted game > developers on how we can bridge the needs of blind and sighted users at > the same time. However, instead of attempting to meet the needs of both > blind and sighted gamers some blind people want to argue the point and > force a sighted person to play our games as we do, and I'm afraid to say > that will never happen unless we are willing to meet them half way. > > Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [email protected].
