I also aggree with you alex I am a braille user havn't used it in ages though.
A major push is going for braille use.
The major issue is that electronic braillers are not computers.
Sure basic stuff can be done, sertain functions email office maybe a little gaming and maybe some other bits and bobs.
However this is the same reason why I have not bothered with mac stuff.
Everything runs on windows.
braille devices don't run modern windows that sightlings use therefore we are excluded into our own branch.
You can't run everything either.
At the same time you can't run some stuff one 1 system and other stuff on another.
You can't just load any old program on a braille or apple device.
Maybe its because I am a tech that I wander about this.
For a simple user it is fine.
I used to use an old keynote and to be honest I had my blindy language based program and the sightlings had their own language.
Thats fine but it means we are not normal.
When I started using what others used I felt more included and free.
If I had a problem I knew I didn't have to go to a special place and pay loads for support on a special program which was only for the blind.
I don't want to be excluded again.
Maybe linux or apple should be the answer I don't know.

At 01:45 p.m. 7/08/2012 +0100, you wrote:
Hi list, I have been reading this thread with interest.
speaking as someone who grew up using braille for the hole of what in the UK is known as primary school, and in the US as elementary school as well as for part of my secondary or highschool education I certainly think braille will not be as widely used as it once was in the coming years. I actually only started learning how to touch type at the age of 12, and didn't start using computers in education full time til about the age of 15 or 16, there use greatly helped me do things faster and of course the internet definitely increased access to information, I well remember the challenges of trying to read huge textbooks or locate sections within them quickly.

However, I think as has already been stated Braille still has a use in a minority of areas such as learning languages etc. One thing I don't think has been covered though is the fact that through our increasing reliance on technology and the decline in the use of braille we are in some ways inccreasing our dependence on the sighted world dramatically. I say this, because all our technology we use, computers etc relies on power, now lets imagine that tomorrow the world ends and the lights go out. That then puts an end to pretty much any electronic technology, no more ebooks, no more e mails, no more texting from your mobile device of choice. In that situation, sighted people will be able to pick up print books for there reading needs, and pens or pencils for communicating or just keeping diaries or records. Those blind people who know braille will still have methods of accessing information and writing information independent of sighted people, whereas those who don't know braille will be extremely reliant on sighted people for reading and writing. I also might be totally wrong about this, but I am sure I read about a blind judge in South Africa who helped the apartheid resistance by passing information in Braille, it was either that or Nazi resistance, I am sure a bit of googling could find the information. Just as a side note, I am in the UK, and I have found it difficult to get repairs done to my brailler, I phoned the local blind society and a few other organisations, but none knew of anyone who could help me, and it will be a real nuisance to pack it up, address it and send it to the rnib to see if they can make repairs to it. Admittedly it was my own fault for trying to braille on a card that was two thick that has made it jam, but I was only previously using it to write a few birthday and christmas cards, so I am wondering if its really worth me getting it fixed. The point I am simply trying to make is that the skills for maintaining equipment seem to be lacking, I mean you would think a blind society would know of people locally or nearer than the RNIB who could make repairs for me.
these are just my thoughts,
Alex.

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