Hi, Does it cost to use yahoo or google groups? I seem to recall the list got changed from one of these but I don't recall the reason why.
al "The truth will set you free" Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi Darren, Well, there are a few good reasons for not increasing the message size to 20 KB. First, is financial. Whoever maintains the Audyssey domain, server, and list will have to pay for extra bandwidth being used by the list. The larger the messages the more bandwidth it will take for Mailman to post several copies of the same message. That cost will directly effect the guy who is paying for the Audyssey domain, bandwidth, etc. That happens to be Raul, but there has been discussion of turning the list over to me so I can just put it on the same service plan as my USA Games account. Therefore the cost would be my responsibility. Second, is that the larger the size of the messages the more time it will take Mailman to post that message to everyone on the list. I realise an extra 10 KB doesn't sound like much on the surface, but is actually quite a lot if you sit down and do the math. For example, let us say that 50 messages are posted to the list on a daily basis. At 10 KB that will equal something like 0.5 MB coming into Mailman. Now, Mailman has to copy and repost all 50 messages to 300 list members which adds up to something like 150 MB in messages going out. Now, let's add an additional 10 KB of length to all 50 messages and watch our output go from 150 MB per day to 300 MB per day. That's something like 9 to 10 GB a month in messages alone. That's a dramatic increase that Mailman has to handle when we can cut that in half by limiting the message length to 10 KB. Finally,increasing the size doesn't resolve the initial problem being discussed here. Allen wanted to know if a message was rejected can he get his original message back. The answer is no, because the software doesn't support that option. Therefore if a message is 21 KB in size and the maximum length is 20 KB someone is still likely to complain about the fact they lost their original message simply because he or she didn't trim the message in the first place. So increasing the length from 10 KB to 20 KB would not resolve the issue being discussed and would add additional problems for the list moderators and maintainers in the process. Cheers! On 8/18/12, Darren Harris <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi tom, > > Then why not increase the msg size to 20kb instead of 10? This will help a > little perhaps? > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
