There is a difference between realism and griefing. While there are pirates in space-themed novels who steal, loot, and plunder repeatedly, it doesn't mean that you should continue to do it once someone is up and knock them down again. If I want that kind of realism, I'll go live real life.
There's realism for the sake of game balance, and then there is realism that can stifle. It cracks me up when fantasy themed games try to go too far to make things realistic and go so overboard. Casting magic missile in the darkness isn't necessary a point to realism either, and yet it's featured in most of those types of games. When it's stifling and it's far more work, then it becomes far less fun for me. I'd be fine with space pirates if people actually roleplayed consistently and it was more than just blowing up ships just because they don't like something you said on chatter, or they are OOCly having a bad day. Pirates could commandeer ships, screw around with trade prices and values, have effects on planets. All of these things are things that could be roleplayed and with a little host help, could come off quite well. There could be an opportunity to form a resistance group, to react to what the pirates are doing. This is cause and effect. This is build-up. This is role play. There are some games where notorious villains stop and help out newbies in their own way. Why? Because they understood that other players were the lifeblood of a mud. They could have cut them down, been mean and hateful, but they chose not to and instead chose to lend a hand. Then later, they chose to do some awesome roleplay with that player once they'd gotten established and start conflict. Blowing up ships, consistently griefing, and holding someone for hours to stun and strand them takes no imagination. There is no build-up, no conflict, it's just someone waving their e-genitals around and proclaiming that theirs is bigger while hiding behind the 'but it's my character and that's how I roleplay!!!!!' facade. But since nothing has been done about it and it won't likely change, it's just more fuel to feed the beast. Warmly, Meka, who apparently has a very strong opinion on this issue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Howard" <coldshadow...@gmail.com> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. while at the same time, I agree, there should be limits, I also think the hosts, want a high realism effect. when you consider real life, you don't get alot of times to choose if you want to be attacked and things stolen from you, this is the similar effect they're trying to put in game. While I agree they do need to make changes, they're not, because they don't care to, and the majoiry of the older players there, have enough influence to keep it the way it is, even if they did want to change it. and to be perfectly honest, miriani does still have a good peek playerbase, I see over 60 to 70 people alot during the day, and truthfully, that number doesn'ts eem like its going to drop anytime soon. so also, sense they look at that, and see hey, we have a goo player number, there's no need to change these small things like this, its a case of teh majority verses the few. so until something drastic actually happens, don't expect it to change. On 9/28/12, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: > To be honest lori, opt in pvp would mean they don't need! to deal with > anyone. that way anyone who wants! to fight other people could do so and > as > > far as the rest of us are concerned just get the heck on with it. > > I've no problem with people blowing 7 shades out of each other in games so > long as everyone agrees first and that it doesn't affect what I, as a solo > player am doing. > > This is exaclty where kingdom of loathing got it right I think, not to > mention alteraeon of course. > > Beware the grue! > > DArk. > ----- > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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