Hi Martin:

I guess my take on this is, using the distribution's libraries is the "right" 
way to go, then let's make this change now and reap the rewards later when all 
the distributions ship the correct versions of the libraries.

Also, I think we have sufficient connections with the various Linux 
distributions to have the missing libraries added or at least requested.

P.S. If you are concerned about the impact on the next release, perhaps we can 
release what we have now as 3.0.4 (or 3.0.3.1 for that matter), and then we'll 
all work towards this library cleanup until we are ready for another official 
release.

Cheers,

Bernard




-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Knoblauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 15:52
To: Bernard Li; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jarod Wilson
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse asshipped with ganglia
 
Bernard,

 I am not saying: drop the idea. I am just asking: what do we win if,
with the exception of expat, none of the external packages is widely
available in the "right" version? Is it worth the effort?

Cheers
Martin

--- Bernard Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Martin:
> 
> I'll let others respond to the thread, but I'd just like to point out
> that there is a fallback - the libs tarball which will include the
> currently shipped libraries in our tree.  So we just need to add some
> intelligence into our configure/build system to auto-detect this...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bernard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Knoblauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 15:30
> To: Bernard Li; Jarod Wilson
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse asshipped with
> ganglia
>  
> Folks,
> 
>  this is certainly not what I wanted to kick off ... If we go that
> way,
> what about:
> 
> RHEL4/5
> CentOs
> SLES
> FC5
> Ubuntu
> ???
> 
> 
>  and the Mandriva stuff is completely outdated.
> 
>  I am just wondering whether splitting of apr/expat/libconfuse is
> really a good thing.
> 
>  Looking a bit broader at www.rpmfind.net:
> 
> apr/apr-devel: varies from 0.9.4 to 0.9.6 for RedHat and Mdk. No
> SuSE.
> In 3.0.3 we moved from 0.9.5 to 0.9.7, because that fixed bz #87. Is
> 0.9.6 enough? I don't know and I do not really want to test it. So
> that
> means we require 0.9.7 which is not available anywhere out of the
> box.
> 
> expat/expat-devel: varies from 1.95.1 to 1.95.8 for a lot of distros.
> Seems we can safely assume its availability everywhere.
> 
> libconfuse: old version for MDK and now 2.5 for FC4 :-) Not a very
> wide
> coverage.
> 
>  Hmm. Not really convinced.
> 
> Cheers
> Martin
> 
> --- Bernard Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jarod:
> > 
> > Great - let's hope it gets accepted soon :-)
> > 
> > Marcus, is there a RPM for SUSE?
> > 
> > Stu, how about for Debian...?
> > 
> > I believe it was mentioned that there is already one for
> Mandriva...
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bernard
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jarod Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 10:56
> > To: Bernard Li
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse asshipped
> with
> > ganglia
> >  
> > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 10:43 -0700, Bernard Li wrote:
> > > Says 404 for me...
> > 
> > Bah, what the heck, who broke the redirectors... Okay, full link,
> > this
> > works, I promise:
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=202820
> > 
> > 
> > > BTW, I don't suppose there'll be any chance for it to get into
> > > RHEL5...?
> > 
> > Highly unlikely at this point in the game, barring it being
> requested
> > by
> > a (probably major) customer...
> > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf
> of
> > > Jarod Wilson
> > > Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 09:28
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped
> > > with    ganglia
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 10:16 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote:
> > > > I can see about packaging the latest libconfuse for Fedora.
> > However,
> > > > without a special exception, it won't be built for FC4, as FC4
> > has
> > > > entered 'maintenance mode' (meaning generally nothing new gets
> > > built,
> > > > only fixes for existing packages allowed).
> > > >
> > > > [...time passes...]
> > > >
> > > > Almost there with a package that I think will pass Fedora
> Extras
> > > > muster...
> > > 
> > > Just submitted it for Fedora Extras review:
> > > 
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/202820/
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jarod Wilson
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > >
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