Hi Ken,
got it!

This line on the master's side does the trick:
data_source 15 "Cluster A" local_A.realm.org:8651

The local gmetad has: (must be IP!)
trusted_hosts <ip_of_master>


Thanx again!

Andreas


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On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Ken MacInnis wrote:

> Hi,
>
> One way to look at it is that multicast is only used between gmonds to
> communicate.. not between gmond and everything else.  A gmetad can query
> either a gmond (typically port 8649), or a gmetad (port 8651 by default).
> This is unicast TCP delivering an XML stream.  So, the gmonds both use
> multicast to find each other, and unicast to deliver data to querying
> connections.
>
> > > gmetads can be data sources to other gmetads, as long as they are
> > trusted
> > > and such.  That part should be fairly straightforward - I've done it to
>
> > gmetad + webfront-end (master in another subnet)
> >   |
> >   |- gmetad (local_A in subnet A)
> >   |    |
> >   |    |- cluster A
> >   |
> >   |
> >   |- gmetad (local_B in subnet B)
> >        |
> >        |- cluster B
> >
> > The 'master' is outside the clusters subnets.
> >
> > Until gmetad (local_A) everything is fine. cluster B is not implemented
> > yet. All gmetad's trust each other by means of the appopriate line (I
> > think) in /etc/gmetad.conf, namely:
> >
> > trusted_hosts localhost master local_A
> >
> > I cannot directly contact the gmond's to the master gmetad because
> > multi_cast is not allowed outside a subnet (routing!).
>
> Well, here, the 'master' gmetad would use unicast TCP to contact the gmond
> on port 8649 (unless you changed that).  You can try 'telnet clusterA 8649'
> and it should give you an XML stream.  If the connection opens, then closes
> immediately, you (probably) don't have your trust configured correctly (or
> perhaps a firewall or ... ).
>
> > With debug level 10 I see that the master gmetad tries listens too
> > port 8651 which is the gmond multi_cast port and does not see anythging
> > there ("[local A] is a dead source").
>
> The master gmetad listening port, here, should only be used in the web
> frontend.  The gmetad will *query* the *other* gmonds or gmetad (i.e. "pull"
> data), rather than having it "pushed" to the master gmetad on the listening
> port.  Or am I misunderstanding what you think occurs?
>
> > What has to be given in the "data_source" line? I tried:
> >
> > data_source [cluster A] local_A
>
> Two notes: one, I find it helpful to specify the polling frequency
> explicitly, since there's currently a bug in the parsing code related to
> that.  Second, specify the port number explicitly too, it's a good habit.
>
> So, if you want to query the gmond on local_A,
>
> data_source 15 "Cluster A" local_A.realm.org:8649
>
> or gmetad:
>
> data_source 15 "Cluster A" local_A.realm.org:8651
>
> These will poll those data_sources every 15 seconds, and you can may have
> changed those ports in the .conf files.
>
> If these give you problems, start from the basics .. try telnetting to those
> ports manually and seeing if the output is correct.  If that doesn't work to
> begin with, then you have other problems.
>
> --
> Ken MacInnis - System Research Programmer II - MGrid
> 130 CCAB, 1071 Beal Ave, Ann Arbor, MI 48109
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>
>
>

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