Hi Scott:

8651 is the default XML port, don't use it for the Multicast port!

Cheers,

Bernard 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Foster, Scott (MS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 14:31
> To: Marcel Birthelmer
> Cc: Bernard Li; Sean Dilda; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Ganglia-general] Multiple clusters single gmetad
> 
> Thanks for the help.   I found the lock file in 
> /var/lock/subsys and deleted the gmond file.  However I still 
> get the problem whenever I try to start gmond after gmetad is 
> started.  I reversed the order and get the same error message 
> except now gmetad says it is dead.
> 
> Here is a quick summary of my setup:
> 
> Production Nodes - Multicast 8650
> Remote Nodes - Multicast 8651
> Experimental Nodes - Multicast 8652
> Servers - Multicast 8649
> 
> gmetad, apache, rrd, and gmond are setup to run on one 
> server.  gmetad starts ok, gmond gives me "gmond dead, subsys 
> locked", rrd and apache work fine.
> 
> My server is setup in its gmond.conf file to be part of the 
> "Servers" cluster.  Utilizing mulicast port 8649 and I have 
> all trusted set to on.
> 
> If I've left something out I apologize.  I'm happy to post 
> more info if needed.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcel Birthelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:14 PM
> To: Foster, Scott (MS)
> Cc: Bernard Li; Sean Dilda; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] Multiple clusters single gmetad
> 
> 
> Probably a stale lockfile somewhere in /var/lock/subsys . Try 
> '/etc/init.d/gmond zap' and then restart it.
> - Marcel
> 
> Foster, Scott (MS) wrote:
> > Thank you all for your help.  It is working now, but of 
> course I'm trying to make one more tweak to get it exactly as 
> we want it.  So I'm not sure if the following can be done.
> > 
> > I am trying to get the headnode and other servers to show 
> up in the server group, but since the headnode is running 
> gmetad when I try to launch gmond I get a error message:  
> gmond dead subsys locked.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what that means.  Basically the server group 
> doesn't show up in ganglia like all the other groups.
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> > Bernard Li
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:28 AM
> > To: Foster, Scott (MS); Sean Dilda
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [Ganglia-general] Multiple clusters single gmetad
> > 
> > 
> > Hi:
> > 
> > You would only need to list them ALL for redundancy - if 
> you only list 
> > one node in the data_source, then if that node dies for whatever 
> > reason then gmetad will not be able to collect data from that 
> > subcluster.  So I guess having at least 2 nodes is good for 
> a large subcluster.
> > 
> > I don't think anybody in their right mind would list all 
> 1000 nodes in 
> > data_source ;-)
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bernard
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Foster, Scott (MS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:49
> >>To: Bernard Li; Sean Dilda
> >>Cc: [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: [Ganglia-general] Multiple clusters single gmetad
> >>
> >>Ah that makes sense.
> >>
> >>But if I'm running gmond on each node in the subcluster do 
> I need to 
> >>specify each of them as datasources?  I'm not sure that makes sense 
> >>especially if I have 1000 nodes each running gmond.  I know I'm 
> >>missing something here and I appreciate all your continued help.
> >>
> >>Scott
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Bernard Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:09 AM
> >>To: Foster, Scott (MS); Sean Dilda
> >>Cc: [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: [Ganglia-general] Multiple clusters single gmetad
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi Scott:
> >>
> >>The different ip addresses showing in gmetad.conf is not the ip 
> >>address of the server running gmetad but instead one of the 
> node (the 
> >>headnode of that subgroup, if you may), which runs gmond.
> >>
> >>Check the syntax of the data_source tag, the ip/hostname 
> listed there 
> >>refers to one or all the nodes in that subgroup/datasource.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Bernard
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> >>>Foster, Scott (MS)
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:14
> >>>To: Sean Dilda
> >>>Cc: [email protected]
> >>>Subject: RE: [Ganglia-general] Multiple clusters single gmetad
> >>>
> >>>How does that work with the gmetad having 3 different IP
> >>
> >>addresses?  
> >>
> >>>My goal was to have one server running gmetad, rrd, and
> >>
> >>apache.  Do I
> >>
> >>>have to have gmetad running on another system to break my
> >>
> >>cluster into
> >>
> >>>sub-clusters?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for the earlier reply.  I appreciate it.
> >>>
> >>>Scott
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Sean Dilda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:14 PM
> >>>To: Foster, Scott (MS)
> >>>Cc: [email protected]
> >>>Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] Multiple clusters single gmetad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 17:47, Foster, Scott (MS) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I've successfully setup ganglia (thanks to everyone on this
> >>>
> >>>list), but now I want to try and break out our cluster 
> into smaller 
> >>>sub clusters.
> >>>
> >>>>1) Production Nodes
> >>>>2) Remote Nodes
> >>>>3) Test Nodes
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm trying to do all this with one server running gmetad
> >>>
> >>>for all the nodes in the cluster regardless of their
> >>
> >>different status.  
> >>
> >>>Is this even possible?
> >>>
> >>>>I've been playing with different multicast addresses and
> >>>
> >>>xml addresses and haven't had much success.  Has anyone ever tried 
> >>>this before?
> >>>
> >>>Yes, this is possible, I'm currently running ganglia like this.  I 
> >>>have a different gmond.conf for each subcluster.
> >>>The only thing that changes between the gmond.conf's is the
> >>
> >>"name" and
> >>
> >>>"mcast_channel", all other settings are the same.
> >>>As for the gmetad.conf, here's the crucial part of it:
> >>>
> >>>data_source "Head Cluster" 300 10.10.1.19 data_source "Storage" 300
> >>>10.10.1.1 data_source "Monitor" 300 localhost
> 
> 
> 

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