Thanks... That was helpful... I'm not sure why I got it into my head
that they were alternatives and not complementary.

Also I have some more technical quesitons about Ganglia...

Am I correct in that Ganglia only uses multicast, and so to monitor
two clusters on different subnets you must have a router that supports
multicast.

Also how scalable is Ganglia. I understand that Ganglia caches
information about every other machine on each node... at least when I
telnet to gmond on a machine all the machines information appears.
Would this not generate a lot of overhead in a cluster with thousands
of nodes?

Thank you for your time!

Steve


On 6/14/05, Dan Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stephen Cartwright wrote:
>
> >I am looking at both Ganglia and Nagios... any comments on how they compare?
> >
> >
> You're comparing apples and oranges.
>
> Nagios is an active system monitor, it's along the lines of HP Openview
> or OpenNMS.  It doesn't do any graphing, it is focused on service and
> host uptime monitoring.
>
> Ganglia is better used as a data collector and trending tool, along the
> lines of cricket, cacti, mrtg, or any other SNMP monitoring tool that
> generates graphs based on collected data.
>
> We run both (in fact, three of the above, Nagios, Cricket, and Ganglia);
> as they all give you different views into the system.  Nagios is what
> pages me in the middle of the night.  Cricket is where we go for
> long-term trending and data collection for non-Linux boxen (routers, air
> handlers, etc.).  And Ganglia gives us high precision system
> statistics.  Most SNMP monitors only run every 5 minutes, whereas
> Ganglia gives you statistics much more frequently.
>
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