Yes, I have confirmed that when this condition occurs the TN figures are MUCH 
greater
than the TMAX figures. I have double checked the routes and stuff is still 
there (i.e.
netstat returns:

Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
239.2.11.71     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH        0 0          0 eth0

Where the host route for 239.2.11.71 is indeed still associated with the 
interface
on the internal cluster network.

Any suggestions then?

-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Mar 22, 2006 4:00 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Ganglia-general] gmond stops recognizing the rest of the cluster
>
>Steven,
>
>if the problem is routing or actual packet loss, then that should be
>reflected
>by the XML output of the master gmond - the "down" host will have a TN
>(much) greater
>than the TMAX. e.g.:
>
><HOST NAME="ldndsm030000185.intranet.barcapint.com" IP="10.68.90.10"
>REPORTED="1143022788" TN="145" TMAX="20" DMAX="0" LOCATION="unspecified"
>GMOND_STARTED="1142870107">
>
>There is also a very small chance that what you are seeing is related to
>the "Possible bug in hosts up calculation" thread. This bug causes an
>erroneous
>tagging of a data source as "old", which then changes the host up
>calculation to be
>one based on the wall clock of the gmetad server. Unless all the clocks
>are right,
>the host_up calculation is wrong.
>
>
>You may try this patch:
>http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=15170774
>
>hope springs eternal, anyway. Myself, I only encountered the problem
>fixed here
>when I was federating clusters.
>
>There is also a host_up calculation in the PHP web stuff, ganglia.php,
>function host_alive.
>You could put debugging in there as well. 
>
>kind regards,
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven
>A. DuChene
>Sent: 21 March 2006 23:32
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Ganglia-general] gmond stops recognizing the rest of the
>cluster
>
>
>I have a couple of mixed clusters here with AMD64/Opteron compute nodes
>and Intel EM64T Xeon managment nodes and I am running
>ganglia-gmond-3.0.2
>
>Periodically (sometimes a couple or more times a day) I check the stats
>for the clusters and the cluster running RedHatEL-4.0 has a problem with
>the master gmond process (the one running on the management server with
>interfaces on the internal cluster network and the external lan here).
>It still responds to a query (using the python ganglia client or through
>the standard front end web
>page) but it stops seeing the client nodes and marks them off-line. It
>will indicate that only one host (itself) is actually up. I have to
>constantly be watching the outputs to see if this has happened and when
>it does do a:
>
> /etc/init.d/gmond restart
>
>That clears it up until next time.
>
>Any idea what could be causing this? I have been using ganglia to
>monitor clusters for quite some time but this is the first time i have
>seen the gmond process needing to be restarted to regain connection to
>the data stream running around inside the cluster.
>
>BTW, I have added a line to the /etc/init.d/gmond script to add a host
>route on the system with the dual network interfaces to point
>239.2.11.71 to the network interface that faces to the internal network
>of the cluster.
>
>I do not seem to have this issue with the cluster that has RedHatEL3
>installed (same hardware thought). It is a smaller cluster (64 nodes
>verses the 128 cluster) though.
>--
>Steven A. DuChene
>
>
>
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