----- Original Message ----- From: "Sampo Vuori" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tending the Lisp Garden" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Gardeners] CLisp GUI application creation "hand holding"
>> I don't understand why everyone is so excited about videos. It's nice as >> a >> prove that it works at all, but you can't copy and paste text from videos >> and it's boring to watch how one character after the other appears on the >> screen :-) > Well, for experienced people yes. For beginners there's so much other > stuff going on besides the actual commands and if someone completes > these steps on a video one cannot forget to tell for example in what > state repl should be, in which window you type stuff etc. Also, for > newbies (like me) it's always educating to see how an seasoned lisper > simply uses the environment. I second this concern. I'm relatively new to Lisp, I lurk, and I, too, struggled with the Lisp development environment. The editor I use is Emacs-like. With some investment in time, it is extremely useable and convenient. That does not help people get past the initial lack of familiarity or adapt to a new thinking process. Videos may help people get started and keep us from losing fruitful programmers to more 'conventional' development cycles in other languages. We could cull a lot of helpful beginner advice from CLL, also. As I recall, some of the responses to the EMACS flames were very helpful. > > - Sampo > > -- > Not all who wander are lost -- J.R.R. Tolkien > _______________________________________________ > Gardeners mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
