On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Jeremy Smith wrote: > On Wednesday 22 February 2006 20:19, Paolo Amoroso wrote: >> I hope that my comments will stimulate the realization that the >> future >> of Lisp is in the hands of its users. There are probably no >> fundamental technical reasons why Lisp is not more widespread: the >> fragmentation of implementations, the lack of cross-platform GUI >> toolkits, the difficulty of generating standalone executables, the >> parentheses, the lack of standardized APIs, whatever. It's just that >> not enough users do something. >> >> Ideas and discussions are no longer enough. Lisp needs labor, not >> praise. >> >> >> Paolo > > I don't know if this is on-topic, but it's related. I just noticed > that > neither Corman nor Lispworks (I haven't checked Allegro) on Windows > come with > ASDF.lisp.
Allegro does. > I'm sure it can't help Lisp propagation if none of the commercial > distributions come with what is effectively a portable, freely > redistributable library (only 40kb too) that is crucial to the > majority of > these CLD efforts. > > I'm not saying they won't put it in their distribution, just that they > haven't, and there's no reason that I can see, for it. Maybe nobody > really > considered it before. So here's a way to make a minor contribution to the Lisp world that's even easier than contributing to the CLD: if you are actually a paying customer of either Lispworks or Corman, send them a request for enhancement that they include asdf.lisp in their distros. Probably better to not do this unless you're actually a paying customer--nobody like a whiner unless they're being paid to respond to the whining. ;-) -Peter -- Peter Seibel * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gigamonkeys Consulting * http://www.gigamonkeys.com/ Practical Common Lisp * http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
