to a happy Jim: Jim, sure you know this book, but just in case you don't, look for: Ing. Werner Kroll, "Der Gasgenerator". Gössen + Berlin, 1943 I have a copy and I saw it on Ebay. It is in german language but exhaustively illustrated, thus very helpful even if you cannot read it. Rolf
Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010 18:05:26 schrieb jim mason: > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Arnt Karlsen <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:01:30 -0700, jim wrote in message > > > > <[email protected]>: > > > i'm still in munich and still enjoying the deutsches museum. > > > > > > http://www.gekgasifier.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1002&c=newimages > > > > > > also, there turned out to be another vehicle with an imbert gasifier > > > > ..what year are these 2 gasifiers, or rather, > > when where they last serviced or modified? > > both i now realize have been rebuilt, or rather, cleaned up and rerun in > more contemporary times. the specifics of this i have yet to figure out. > with a little more work we likely can. the history of the exhibits in the > dm is very well kept. another interesting thing that surfaced is that the > dm has a very large archive where they collect and keep machinery manuals, > brochures and general consumable literature on these type of devices. it > is very likely there is some interesting things to discover there too. > > either way, as for these machines, they've had some attention and been run > in more recent times. the fuel in the adler one is more recently cut > dimensioned lumber, not the wwII fuel. i took some samples from the char > at various levels if we want to explore it. > > the filters on the adler have been cleaned and repainted and never run > after. the yellow thing in the picture with me is a baffle plate array > from the horizontal ash tube on the side of the reactor. the baffle array > was brand new. the tube and all plumbing was original. the water filter > and packed bed in the front were cleaned out, but still original. the > reactor itself is unrestored, like the rest of the adler. all the vessels > show some rust and age, but are still well intact. they seem to be either > 16 or 18awg mild steel. the hearth is cast, about 1/4 - 3/8" thick. > > the ford truck has had a full off frame restoration. they appear to have > done the gasifier at the same time. then ran it again, as the bottom of > the reactor has all the paint burned off, just like ours! the water filter > was very messy inside. i didn't see in the rest as i didn't have > permission for that one. > > the dm runs lots of their equipment. they do demos for visitors, and > appear to take some out for special ocassions. it is far from a hands on > museum, but they do run and move around the equipment it appears. there > are pictures of various machines in parades and such. the dm is a major > national project, and they enjoy showing some of the accomplishments. > there are a good deal of steam engines set up to run on compressed air > within the museum. several of the very large ones, like the watt engine, > are run on compressed air. the whole room smells of machine oil. some of > the ic engines simiarly have exhaust pipes ported to vents so they can be > run. > > somehow in this, both of the gasifiers were run recently. not a ton, but a > bit, and certainly more recently than wwII. > > j > > > > > > and a hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw > > > > > lots of expedience, simplicity, and band aids. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gasification mailing list > > > > > > > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioen > >erg > > > > > > ylists.org< > > > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioen > >erg%0Aylists.org > > > > > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > > > > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gasification mailing list > > > > > > > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioen > >ergylists.org > > > > > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > > > > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > -- > > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) > > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > > best case, worst case, and just in case. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gasification mailing list > > > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > > [email protected] > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioen > >ergylists.org > > > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
