Jim: Sounds like a very instructive visit. We saw one in less detail in a Danish museum. Pics are great...
TOM REED On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Ronald Hongsermeier <[email protected]>wrote: > jim, > forgot to say: P.S. cf GEK forum post > > ron > > ------------------------------ > *Von:* "jim mason" <[email protected]> > *Gesendet:* 31.10.2010 18:05:26 > *An:* "Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification" < > [email protected]> > *Betreff:* Re: [Gasification] No time for beer in Munich- there's a real > live imbert gasifier here > > > > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Arnt Karlsen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:01:30 -0700, jim wrote in message >> <[email protected]>: >> >> > i'm still in munich and still enjoying the deutsches museum. >> > >> > http://www.gekgasifier.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1002&c=newimages >> > >> > also, there turned out to be another vehicle with an imbert gasifier >> >> > >> ..what year are these 2 gasifiers, or rather, >> when where they last serviced or modified? >> > > both i now realize have been rebuilt, or rather, cleaned up and rerun in > more contemporary times. the specifics of this i have yet to figure out. > with a little more work we likely can. the history of the exhibits in the > dm is very well kept. another interesting thing that surfaced is that the > dm has a very large archive where they collect and keep machinery manuals, > brochures and general consumable literature on these type of devices. it is > very likely there is some interesting things to discover there too. > > either way, as for these machines, they've had some attention and been run > in more recent times. the fuel in the adler one is more recently cut > dimensioned lumber, not the wwII fuel. i took some samples from the char at > various levels if we want to explore it. > > the filters on the adler have been cleaned and repainted and never run > after. the yellow thing in the picture with me is a baffle plate array from > the horizontal ash tube on the side of the reactor. the baffle array was > brand new. the tube and all plumbing was original. the water filter and > packed bed in the front were cleaned out, but still original. the reactor > itself is unrestored, like the rest of the adler. all the vessels show some > rust and age, but are still well intact. they seem to be either 16 or 18awg > mild steel. the hearth is cast, about 1/4 - 3/8" thick. > > the ford truck has had a full off frame restoration. they appear to have > done the gasifier at the same time. then ran it again, as the bottom of the > reactor has all the paint burned off, just like ours! the water filter was > very messy inside. i didn't see in the rest as i didn't have permission for > that one. > > the dm runs lots of their equipment. they do demos for visitors, and > appear to take some out for special ocassions. it is far from a hands on > museum, but they do run and move around the equipment it appears. there are > pictures of various machines in parades and such. the dm is a major > national project, and they enjoy showing some of the accomplishments. there > are a good deal of steam engines set up to run on compressed air within the > museum. several of the very large ones, like the watt engine, are run on > compressed air. the whole room smells of machine oil. some of the ic > engines simiarly have exhaust pipes ported to vents so they can be run. > > somehow in this, both of the gasifiers were run recently. not a ton, but a > bit, and certainly more recently than wwII. > > j > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > and a hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw >> > > > lots of expedience, simplicity, and band aids. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Gasification mailing list >> > > >> > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> > > [email protected] >> > > >> > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> > > >> > > >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg >> > > ylists.org< >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg%0Aylists.org >> > >> > > >> > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> > > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Gasification mailing list >> > > >> > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> > > [email protected] >> > > >> > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> > > >> > > >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> > > >> > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> > > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) >> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... >> Scenarios always come in sets of three: >> best case, worst case, and just in case. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Jim Mason > Website: http://www.whatiamupto.com > Current Projects: > - Gasifier Experimenters Kit (the GEK): http://www.gekgasifier.com > - Escape from Berkeley alt fuels vehicle race: > www.escapefromberkeley.com > - ALL Power Labs on Twitter: http://twitter.com/allpowerlabs > - Shipyard Announce list: > http://lists.spaceship.com/listinfo.cgi/icp-spaceship.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > -- NOTE: PLEASE CHANGE MY ADDRESS TO [email protected] Dr. Thomas B. 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