Tom, Sridhar,

 

Is part of the solution to make producer gas with more hydrogen in it?

 

Tom

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Reed
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Cc: Sridhar Gururaja Rao; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper

 

Dear Eric and all

 

You commented on the lack of knock in engines running on producer gas.  

 

The Octane of a fuel turns out to be 10x the compression ratio at which the 
engine will knock on a fuel in that engine.  

 

Typical gasoline engines today have a CR of 8.5 and won't knock on 85 octane 
gasoline, but will knock on 80 octane gasoline.

 

Small planes typically demand high test gasoline 100 octane and have a CR of 
10:1.  

 

It is important to use the highest CR that a fuel will support.  Both power AND 
efficiency increase linearly with CR.   I believe the octane of producer gas is 
over 150, and I have been urging all to raise the CR of engines running PG.  

 

My company, CPC, ran PG in an engine with CR 15 and got no knock and 
spectacular power and efficiency.

 

It took five years to get them to do it.

 

Tom Reed


Dr Thomas B Reed

President, The Biomass Energy Foundation

www.Woodgas.com


On Jun 28, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "Erin Rasmussen" <[email protected]> wrote:

Sridhar recently forwarded us information about his paper about Producer Gas 
Engines. It is an interesting paper, and we've posted a link to it from the 
gasification web site, but you can also get it directly from the publisher with 
this link.

 

G. Sridhar and Ravindra Babu Yarasu (2010). Facts about Producer Gas Engine , 
Paths to Sustainable Energy, Jatin Nathwani and Artie Ng (Ed.), ISBN: 
978-953-307-401-6, InTech,  Available from: 
http://www.intechopen.com/articles/show/title/facts-about-producer-gas-engine

 

To sum up, they connected an engine that has been designed to run on producer 
gas, to a downdraft gasifier, and recording and analyzing the results. There 
may be some surprises here, like the lack of knock at higher compression 
ratios, and the information gathering is both sound, and beautifully presented. 
 

 

Cheers,

Erin Rasmussen

TR Miles Techical Consultants Inc.

and BioEnergy Discussion Lists

[email protected]

 

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