Regarding H2 as an accelarent. for the power stroke of an IC.
I have read that some research regarding the detonation of fuel air mixtures, 
using the addition of metal catalyst's permanently attached to the piston or 
cylinder walls, 
This accomplished  a high temperature reaction which provides "extra" hydrogen 
derived from steam. 
This being a development originating from research carried out on WW 2 fighter 
aircraft engines, to obtain a power boost during combat operations,  including 
the injection of a water/methanol mix during the required "boost" period.
It now seems that we are to have this mixture imposed by Government mandate  
without the "catalysts" to run our gasoline engines, Perhaps we should all use 
platinum tipped spark plugs to help with the reaction.
All thanks to the corn lobby.

GF 


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Miles <[email protected]>
To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' 
<[email protected]>
Cc: 'Sridhar Gururaja Rao' <[email protected]>; gasification 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper



Tom, Sridhar,
 
Is part of the solution to make producer gas with more hydrogen in it?
 
Tom
 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Reed
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Cc: Sridhar Gururaja Rao; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper

 

Dear Eric and all

 

You commented on the lack of knock in engines running on producer gas.  

 

The Octane of a fuel turns out to be 10x the compression ratio at which the 
engine will knock on a fuel in that engine.  

 

Typical gasoline engines today have a CR of 8.5 and won't knock on 85 octane 
gasoline, but will knock on 80 octane gasoline.

 

Small planes typically demand high test gasoline 100 octane and have a CR of 
10:1.  

 

It is important to use the highest CR that a fuel will support.  Both power AND 
efficiency increase linearly with CR.   I believe the octane of producer gas is 
over 150, and I have been urging all to raise the CR of engines running PG.  

 

My company, CPC, ran PG in an engine with CR 15 and got no knock and 
spectacular power and efficiency.

 

It took five years to get them to do it.

 

Tom Reed


Dr Thomas B Reed

President, The Biomass Energy Foundation

www.Woodgas.com



On Jun 28, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "Erin Rasmussen" <[email protected]> wrote:



Sridhar recently forwarded us information about his paper about Producer Gas 
Engines. It is an interesting paper, and we've posted a link to it from the 
gasification web site, but you can also get it directly from the publisher with 
this link.
 

G. Sridhar and Ravindra Babu Yarasu (2010). Facts about Producer Gas Engine , 
Paths to Sustainable Energy, Jatin Nathwani and Artie Ng (Ed.), ISBN: 
978-953-307-401-6, InTech,  Available from: 
http://www.intechopen.com/articles/show/title/facts-about-producer-gas-engine

 
To sum up, they connected an engine that has been designed to run on producer 
gas, to a downdraft gasifier, and recording and analyzing the results. There 
may be some surprises here, like the lack of knock at higher compression 
ratios, and the information gathering is both sound, and beautifully presented. 
 
 
Cheers,

Erin Rasmussen
TR Miles Techical Consultants Inc.
and BioEnergy Discussion Lists
[email protected]
 



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