Hi Ed, If you feel you have something worthwhile, please contribute.
Regards, Phillip On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Ed Woolsey <[email protected]> wrote: > I would add an action item ask to the end of the document. > > I would be willing to submit to any paper but the DSMR. I've been working > on one for them. > I can think about another author if you'd like. > > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:52:47 -0700 > "Mark Ludlow" <[email protected]> wrote: > So Philip, once you can grow trillions of > Peptostreptococcus productus, > where are you? They take your useable CO and convert it > into CO2 and > acetate. Is this what you're after? > > Mark > > > > From: > gasification-bounces@lists.**bioenergylists.org<[email protected]> > > [mailto:gasification-bounces@**lists.bioenergylists.org<[email protected]>] > On > Behalf Of phillip > manske > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:57 AM > To: [email protected]; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and > gasification > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Continuing > > > > Hi all, > > > > Until I get my library card, I'm gonna be quiet. That > will be little more > than a week. > > > > I have every intention of not digesting and every > intention of operating the > reactors according to published papers. Digestion is a > sloppy process and > digestate is very difficult to come by and manage. I'm > not interested in > moving 10 tens of slop either in or out every day. No, > just no. > > > > The gasifer provides reliably with no waste afterward, > the exact right > bacteria will act in the exact right way. I'm not going > to make a reactor > and then leave the top off for a week and hope the right > bacteria shows up.m > That sounds counter productive. > > > > There are very explicit instructions on the matter and I > intend on following > them. > > > > Peptostreptococcus productus or bust. > > > > Phillip > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:37 AM, David <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Dr. Reed, > > > On 7/20/2011 12:27 PM, Thomas Reed wrote: > > Dear Phil and all > > Phil seems concerned about getting the "right" bacteria. > My impression is > "if you vuildmit, they will come". > > > > Anaerobic life has proven ubiquitous, indeed, so wherever > conditions are > right-- a biogas digester, a stagnant pond, one's own > gut-- anaerobes indeed > "show up". One may want to gather inoculates from various > sources-- cow > manure, ground up termites-- and put those things in the > digester, but it is > not certain that will assist in producing more biogas. > Regardless, given > that the digester will be a very complex ecosystem > exposed to repeated > inoculations with incoming material, there is little > point in trying to > arrange things so that the "livestock" are restricted to > a particular set of > chosen species. It might be done, but it would require > sterilizing incoming > material, etc., and it's not clear all that can take > place and still have > the system be net positive for energy, or indeed anything > like as net > positive as a "fill and forget" system. > > > > d. > > -- > > David William House > > "The Complete Biogas Handbook" www.completebiogas.com > <http://www.completebiogas.**com/ <http://www.completebiogas.com/>> > > Vahid Biogas, an alternative energy consultancy > www.vahidbiogas.com > <http://www.vahidbiogas.com/> > > > "Make no search for water. But find thirst, > And water from the very ground will burst." > > (Rumi, a Persian mystic poet, quoted in Delight of > Hearts, p. 77) > > http://bahai.us/ > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > Gasification@bioenergylists.**org <[email protected]> > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web > page > http://lists.bioenergylists.**org/mailman/listinfo/** > gasification_lists.bioenerg<http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg> > ylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web > site: > http://gasifiers.**bioenergylists.org/<http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/> > > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > Gasification@bioenergylists.**org <[email protected]> > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.**org/mailman/listinfo/**gasification_lists.** > bioenergylists.org<http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org> > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.**bioenergylists.org/<http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/> >
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