Kevin,

I want to know about any and all reasonable devices that work. Reality now trumps specifications and expenses of R&D.

Personally, I lack the mechanical knowledge and the time to do this myself. But I KNOW it is important, and I turn to my friends on the Listservs, with gratitude for whatever can be accomplished.

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  [email protected]
Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 1/8/2014 12:45 PM, Kevin wrote:

Dear Paul
As per my previous e-mail, (copy appended below the ******** line) you really should describe the job you want done, so that designers would at least have some "starting specifications" on which to base their estimated cost. Do you want someone to design and build them for you to re-sell, or do you want a suitable "set of plans" that you could sell or give to people.? Or perhaps you have some other arrangement in mind?
Best wishes,
Kevin

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Paul Anderson <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]> ; Discussion of
    biomass cooking stoves <mailto:[email protected]> ;
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; Bob
    Fairchild <mailto:[email protected]> ; Ron Vanetten
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:17 PM
    *Subject:* [biochar] Re: [Gasification] Chunking wood for small
    scale biochar production, fotos !

    To all,

    Yes, it certainly seems to be a chunker.   Yes, the wood seem
    weak, but the machine seems adequate.

    See also:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J3hsWyuyTg

    Seem to be in some Slavic language?   Do we have any further
    information?   All seems sufficiently inexpensive for many of us,
    and could be appropriate for someone in a developing country to
    make a living going around chunking people's low-value branches.
    And there seem to be other videos suggested by YouTube.

    I request assistance from someone(s) with mechanical talents to
    help bring such technology to our understands (and ability to
    replicate and improve as necessary).

    The issue is not the power source (electric or small gasoline or
    ??).   The issue is the breaking and/or chunking of such biomass.

    Paul

    Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:[email protected] Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
    Website:www.drtlud.com

    On 1/7/2014 10:35 PM, Pete & Sheri wrote:

    I'd certainly call that one a chunker.  But I noticed that at
    least one of the branches broke in half as it was fed in.  Maybe
    some pretty rotten wood?

    If the machine can do that kind of work with solid wood it seems
    to be a good contender.

    At least for a little while.  (It does jump around some).

    Pete Stanaitis

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    *From:*Gasification
    [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
    Of *Cesar Casanova
    *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:25 PM
    *To:* Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
    *Subject:* Re: [Gasification] Chunking wood for small scale
    biochar production, fotos !

    Hi, Is this a chunker or wood chipper?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4GUEq_ubkw

    Cesar

    
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        ----- Original Message -----
        *From:* Kevin <mailto:[email protected]>
        *To:* [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> ; Mark Ludlow
        <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'energiesnaturals'
        <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'Discussion of biomass
        cooking stoves' <mailto:[email protected]> ;
        'Bob Fairchild' <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'Ron
        Vanetten' <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 2:46 PM
        *Subject:* Re: [biochar] Re: [Stoves] Chaff cutters and wood
        choppers

        Dear Paul
        The request is like the question: "How long is a piece of
        string"? :-) There are many different potential chaff cutter
        and wood chopper designs. There are as many as there are
        "potential applications."
        Some of the variables may include:
        * Production rate required.
        * Manual or machine power
        * Feed material
        * Desired "cut product size and shape.
        * Need for screening and sizing of product or not?
        * Portability
        * Durability
        * Potential annual sales for each specific product
        * Permissible price for a product or specific device to
        accomplish a specific task
        * Etc.
        These variables, and the "necessary features" required, must
        be specified before it is possible to configure a suitable
        design and to estimate a cost "at the factory gate."
        So, if you required a "cutter" or "chopper" to make a fuel
        suitable for TLUD's, you should specify all the relevant
        properties and features that would be necessary for a
        Designer to configure a product design that would meet your
        needs. However, the Designer should know how much the
        Customer could afford to pay for the final product, so that
        he will know if it is even possible to build a product that
        will be affordable to the Target Customer. Additionally, the
        Designer needs to know the expected sales volume per year, so
        that he can figure in the economies of scale in developing
        prices.
        Best wishes,
        Kevin

            ----- Original Message -----
            *From:* Paul Anderson <mailto:[email protected]>
            *To:* Mark Ludlow <mailto:[email protected]> ;
            [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            ; 'energiesnaturals' <mailto:[email protected]> ;
            'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'
            <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'Bob
            Fairchild' <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'Ron Vanetten'
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent:* Saturday, January 04, 2014 4:07 PM
            *Subject:* Re: [biochar] Re: [Stoves] Chaff cutters and
            wood choppers

            Mark,

            I am not good at estimating price points, and the number
            of variations (feeder rollers, flywheel, thickness of
            sticks) are so numerous that to say a price without
specifying all the rest might not be very realistic. So, as a NON-engineer, I request assistance from other
            readers about price vs features.

            Even if I purchased one for where I live (Illinois, USA),
            my usage would be limited, and not related to amounts
            like tons.   And to export from Mexico to Africa would be
            in the same league as importing cutters from India,
            meaning: difficult.

            I would like to know what could be accomplished at
            different price points.   Is that a reasonable place to
            start?   (I hope others will comment.   And maybe
            something can be accomplished.)

            Mark, where are you in Mexico, and when did you move
            there?   Greetings to your wife.

            Paul


            Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:[email protected] Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
            Website:www.drtlud.com

            On 1/4/2014 2:23 AM, Mark Ludlow wrote:

            Hi Paul,

            It would be useful if you could state a price point that
            would make equipment like this realistic. The machine
            Rolf describes is typical, but I appreciate the fact
            that limbs and trunks are fed at an angle. Shearing at
            an angle reduces the shear force required and thus
            increases the output per unit of power input. I could
            build a no-frills (except for safety systems) chipper
            like the one Rolf describes, here in México, at cost, if
            you are interested. México is the productivity-adjusted,
            lowest-cost producer in the world, as of 2014. Yet many
            are unemployed.

            If you tell me some number, say $/MT of green input,
            this gives us a target to design against. I think that
            energy-storage (flywheel) to accommodate impulse loading
            may work, but the amount of energy required is easily
            calculated and is reflected in the nominal hourly-input
            rating.

            I will support development costs (as a non-profit) if
            you will tell me there is a market for XXX Machines at
            XXX Cost on the horizon.

            Buen Viajo en Africa!

            Mark

            *From:*[email protected]
            [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul
            Anderson

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