All the gasification concepts I am aware of that are "just a little" close to a 
technical definition of "working" loose between 1/3 and 2/3 og the energy in 
parasitic losses if they are fired with biomass - thus REAL invention is needed 
:)

Thomas




Fra: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] På 
vegne af Tom Miles
Sendt: 29. september 2014 03:03
Til: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'
Emne: Re: [Gasification] New Gasification Project

Good question. I haven't followed Red rock.

Tom

From: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Thomas Koch
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:21 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] New Gasification Project

Tom

What type of gasifier du they use?

Best regards

Thomas Koch

Fra: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] På 
vegne af Tom Miles
Sendt: 28. september 2014 20:34
Til: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'
Emne: Re: [Gasification] New Gasification Project

The Lakeview projects picks up after a failed $100 million biomass project 
there by 
Iberdrola<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCUQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iberdrola.es%2Fabout-us%2Flines-business%2Fpower%2F&ei=VVEoVNDTK8uwigKf2YHACQ&usg=AFQjCNFWi2vcKxPabr7LqUiIsEpriZcJhw&sig2=X0onbOS_zs10iNFxEboqQg&bvm=bv.76247554,d.cGE>
 who reportedly stopped in 2011/2012 due to the lack of a suitable power 
purchase agreement and uncertainties about the California renewable portfolio 
standards. They were also looking for higher emissions allowances than 
permitted on the site. The infrastructure is there. The resource can be 
expensive if it is coming from forest restoration. That project would have 
consumed 160,000 tpy biomass. The Red Rock project is looking for 140,00 tpy. 
That's equivalent to a 14-16 MWe power plant which is the smallest standalone 
biomass plant that you would build today due to economies of scale.

Is there enough margin and market for a new technology? Lots of challenges. 
We'll see.

Tom

AK>It gets even worse.  They plan to build their gasification plant in 
Lakeview, OR.  That area has what we in Western Oregon call a "shrub forest" 
compared to the density and size of the trees along the Pacific Coast.

They must have struck a pretty good financial deal to make them site their 
plant in a fairly challenging resource area.

Art
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