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 I have been given some value for long term contracts for bio-char from 
international purchasers that are in need of confirmation. Can anyone provide 
information on what is being offered price wise and the quality? 
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc. 



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From: Craig Kernan <[email protected]>
To: gasification <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 22, 2015 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Gasification] sustainability

                     I you want safe energy generation,       nuclear or other, 
just require insurance to cover all damage,       personal injury and deaths 
coverage at the 90th wrongful death       settelment level.     I do not know 
all the things needed to make       complex, dangerous processes highly 
unlikely  to do do damage,        however with this kind of insurance 
requirement I think a lot of       the best experts will be working on 
extremely safe designs.          Somewhat similar rules might be applied to 
mining and processing       industries.   
       
       Making explicit rules does not control things well.  taxes work       
much better, If they are not suficintly efecitve they can be       adjusted.  
If not suffiently global impose them on all imports       based on worst 
poluting in source country.   
       
       
       Alass, not achievable  in the curent culture. 
       
       craig   
       
       On 1/22/2015 10:09 AM, Bob Stuart wrote:
     
            This must be a troll from under the Nuclear bridge.  I live near    
   the first Uranium mines, which are still leaking and producing       
mutants.  By the time they, and all the other hazards have been       cleaned 
up, there is likely to be no net gain at all.  The       potential of nuclear 
is tiny without re-processing, which has       never worked.  It is dwarfed not 
only by wind, but by hydrothermal       vents, the smallest of which puts out 
the power of several big       nukes.  The only thing nukes are good for is 
producing bomb       material and corruption in politics.  Just try to get one 
insured       if you don't believe me.              
       Bob Stuart
       
                    On 22-Jan-15, at 8:49 AM, Kermit Schlansker wrote:
                                                                                
                                Ideas on Sustainability 
                                
                                                                We have no 
right to                       dismiss Global Warming. The consequences are so  
                     dire that if the probability of warming occurring          
             were only .1% we still would have to act.                       
Furthermore the question really is whether we have                       to 
conserve or not. As the years go by we will run                       out of 
many resources including fossil fuels and                       it is 
imperative that we conserve them. Still                       another reason is 
that by reducing consumption we                       can reduce the basic cost 
of living and that will                       be essential at a time where 
poverty is                       everywhere. 
                                                                 It is 
imperative that we build more nuclear                       plants because that 
is the only source of energy                       large enough to save us from 
total despair. Solar,                       biomass and wind can never produce 
enough to                       satisfy our needs. However energy sources are 
only                       competitive in terms of priority and price. We       
                need all of them. Some of them are much easier to               
        finance than nuclear and we must proceed on all                       
fronts. We must develop all types of energy                       conservation 
and alternate energy production in                       order to keep the cost 
and number of nuclear                       plants down to a manageable level.
                                                                  Geometry is 
the best tool for conserving                       energy. Cities must be 
designed a square mile at a                       time. That square mile should 
be packed with                       apartment houses, factories, multi-purpose 
                      buildings, a department store, and anything else          
             that is needed for every day life. Towns should be                 
      so designed that “walking to work will save the                       
earth” The construction of single family houses                       should be 
stopped. The first step is to stop                       subsidizing them in 
any way. Apartments will save                       large amounts of heating 
energy and the                       compactness they can create will greatly 
reduce                       transportation energy. City and county governments 
                      must assist in the formation of car pools.                
       Apartments are the only way of saving energy that                       
costs nothing because we need a place to live                       anyhow. 
                                                                  Energy saving 
devices such as cogeneration,                       comanufacturing, combustion 
driven heat pumps, and                       solar mirrors for both power 
generation and                       heating must be developed. Biomass 
gasifying and                       biodigestion must be experimented with. 
Large                       amounts of biomass including fruit trees must be    
                   planted. Cities must plant parks and streets with            
           edible plants. It is essential that sewage be                       
biodigested along with other biomass and used to                       make 
fertilizer, fuel gas, and clean water The                       digestion 
residues can initially be used for                       fertilizing energy 
crops in order to avoid                       pollution problems
                                                               There should be 
large farms with apartment                       houses on them rather than 
single family houses                       that destroy both cropland and 
wilderness.                       Experimental farming should develop both 
energy                       and food crops. Farm apartment buildings are ideal 
                      places to experiment with heating, cooling, small         
              windmills, and solar energy. 
                                                                 It is 
imperative that city, State, and                       county governments get 
involved in initiating                       large energy projects such as an 
energy farm or                       experimental low heat apartments. A 
universal                       factory would also be a good project. In order 
to                       do this they should work together to start and         
              finance such projects. It is as essential to make                 
      it easier for ordinary citizens to form                       
cooperatives and small corporations that would do                       energy 
or food projects. There should be a roster                       in city hall 
of people that wish to buy stock and                       help to form such 
projects.
                                
                                                               Kermit 
Schlansker   PE                           [email protected]
                
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