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     On Friday, January 30, 2015 2:08 PM, Joe Barnas <[email protected]> 
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 Why is it that these discussions, which do suggest many good Climate Change 
mitigation techniques, never mention reducing the size of the global human 
population? It is the size of the population which uses current Industrial Age 
technology that is accelerating greenhouse gas accumulation. Besides, if the 
population were smaller then its impact on the ecosystem would also be reduced. 
 
It isn't just ocean acidification or poor land use planning that is decimating 
aquatic and terrestrial species - the economies designed to feed us have built 
an industrial fishing and farming system. Growing urban populations are to 
blame for shrinking water resources and agricultural lands.
Even when we do come together to fight climate change the pressure of such a 
large human population will require that any solution will have to be built to 
size. A smaller population would reduce the size of the solutions implemented.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Henri Naths <[email protected]> wrote:


! ....  Agreed! The belief system that promotes doom, gloom and chaos is a 
totalitarian approach and fear mongering. It does not take into account man's 
intuition and survival skills are bar none. We all have a mind, brain and 
intellect development potential than even the best scientist can only estimate. 
The days of "the brain is hard wired" are a thing of the Darwinism bygone era. 
Neuroplasticity, positive energy and spiritually have made significant gains in 
the human condition that will mitigate the existential risk to mankind. H. 
On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:38 PM, J. Paul Villella <[email protected]> wrote:


Seems your German Socialism is showing through.  Top down never works.  EVER.  
It kills ingenuity/inventiveness/incentive.  10,000 individual farmsteads 
working solutions for their own particular resource mix provide synergistic 
solutions never before would have been considered in the beaurocratic 
nightmaare of top down dictates.  PYROLYSIS would have been outlawed before the 
first puff of smoke was emitted.   The Universe of Creativeness depends on 
freedom of the individual to do and fail and try again, not to march lockstep 
into the doom of conformity to one overlord's idea of the "RIGHT WAY".  

On Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:51 AM, Kermit Schlansker <[email protected]> 
wrote:


                                       Ideas on Sustainability             We 
have no right to dismiss Global Warming. The consequences are so dire that if 
the probability of warming occurring were only .1% we still would have to act. 
Furthermore the question really is whether we have to conserve or not. As the 
years go by we will run out of many resources including fossil fuels and it is 
imperative that we conserve them. Still another reason is that by reducing 
consumption we can reduce the basic cost of living and that will be essential 
at a time where poverty is everywhere.             It is imperative that we 
build more nuclear plants because that is the only source of energy large 
enough to save us from total despair. Solar, biomass and wind can never produce 
enough to satisfy our needs. However energy sources are only competitive in 
terms of priority and price. We need all of them. Some of them are much easier 
to finance than nuclear and we must proceed on all fronts. We must develop all 
types of energy conservation and alternate energy production in order to keep 
the cost and number of nuclear plants down to a manageable level.             
Geometry is the best tool for conserving energy. Cities must be designed a 
square mile at a time. That square mile should be packed with apartment houses, 
factories, multi-purpose buildings, a department store, and anything else that 
is needed for every day life. Towns should be so designed that “walking to work 
will save the earth” The construction of single family houses should be 
stopped. The first step is to stop subsidizing them in any way. Apartments will 
save large amounts of heating energy and the compactness they can create will 
greatly reduce transportation energy. City and county governments must assist 
in the formation of car pools. Apartments are the only way of saving energy 
that costs nothing because we need a place to live anyhow.              Energy 
saving devices such as cogeneration, comanufacturing, combustion driven heat 
pumps, and solar mirrors for both power generation and heating must be 
developed. Biomass gasifying and biodigestion must be experimented with. Large 
amounts of biomass including fruit trees must be planted. Cities must plant 
parks and streets with edible plants. It is essential that sewage be 
biodigested along with other biomass and used to make fertilizer, fuel gas, and 
clean water The digestion residues can initially be used for fertilizing energy 
crops in order to avoid pollution problems          There should be large farms 
with apartment houses on them rather than single family houses that destroy 
both cropland and wilderness. Experimental farming should develop both energy 
and food crops. Farm apartment buildings are ideal places to experiment with 
heating, cooling, small windmills, and solar energy.             It is 
imperative that city, State, and county governments get involved in initiating 
large energy projects such as an energy farm or experimental low heat 
apartments. A universal factory would also be a good project. In order to do 
this they should work together to start and finance such projects. It is as 
essential to make it easier for ordinary citizens to form cooperatives and 
small corporations that would do energy or food projects. There should be a 
roster in city hall of people that wish to buy stock and help to form such 
projects.           Kermit Schlansker   PE     [email protected]
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