Tom and listers,       
        GC's are limited in their ability to detect broad ranging components. A 
GC set up for fixed gases usually can't detect compounds like ethanol, 
methanol, acetic acid which are all present in gasifier produced gases unless 
specifically removed and acetic or other organic acids will contribute to 
engine oil acidification and corrosion over time. 
        There are system that can provide instantaneous broad ranged gas 
analysis going from hydrogen to whatever you want in MW. 
        The other question is to gas heating value for combustible components 
to adjust the engine air/fuel ratio as it may change, such as change in 
moisture content in feedstock, ambient humidity, composition of feedstock or to 
increase the range of acceptable feedstock for improved economic performance. 
There is such a device which is surprisingly inexpensive and effective with any 
combustible component being analyzed instantaneously, which a GC cannot do.  
        
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Davies <[email protected]>
To: gasification <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jan 4, 2016 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Characterization of waste water from biomass 
gasification equipment: A case-study from Cambodia

                     Dear Tom,
     
     The end of 2015 has been very busy for us, and the start of 2016     looks 
even busier. Essentially we have successfully proven our     gasifier systems 
with high ash, pelleted ag-residues in a high     temperature, low tar gasifier 
scenario with simple dry scrubbing.     Even when slightly over aspirated with 
some residual oxygen coming     through the tars were limited to low viscosity 
condensates (and very     little of these), though the gas quality varied 
slightly with the     appearance of some C2-C8 hydrocarbons (nothing higher 
though, within     detectable limits of the GC system used by the lab). We also 
now     have one of the leading European CHP providers sign off on our gas     
quality for use in their IC engine systems, so expect to be able to     supply 
complete turnkey plants shortly which have a global support     network.
     
     Yes it does require a pelleting step at this stage, but we are      
working with a couple of pellet equipment manufacturers for a lower     cost, 
gasifier optimised pellet which will be substantially cheaper     and lower 
maintenance than conventional wood pellet plants used for     the combustion 
industry. Accompanying innovative financing for     village scale densification 
systems is also now well advanced.
     
     So we don't agree that water scrubbing is either necessary or where     
gasifiers will be in the future. However if you only have old     gasifier tech 
to work with then you can try torrefied sawdust     filters to recirculate your 
scrubber water through, our early     testing found these very effective till 
we fixed the hearth core in     the gasifier design so they were not needed.
     
     New Years Cheers,
     Peter
     ID Gasifiers Pty Ltd
     Australia.
     
     
     On 5/01/2016 2:31 AM, Tom Miles wrote:
     
                                          Since 2005 hundreds of small scale    
       gasifiers have been installed in Myanmar, Cambodia and other           
South East Asian countries to offset high cost diesel to           generate 
shaft and electric power in rice mills and palm           factories. They are 
often in the 100+kW scale. Initially they           were dual fueled with 
diesel but increasingly they are 100%           producer gas. Ankur Scientific  
introduced a dry cleaning           system in 2009 but in most cases the 
gasifiers use water           scrubbers and the waste water and sludge is 
discharged into           ponds without remediation. Simon Shackley and others 
have           published a thorough characterization of waster waters from      
     several gasifiers. 
          
         Crop residues are best gasified at low           temperatures. Low 
temperatures generate tars. Scrubbers are           the lowest cost cleaning 
technique. Water strips toxic           chemicals from the gas which become 
carried into the           environment with water and sludge. Gasifier char is 
very           useful. Sludge and black water are dangerous. 
          
         The remediation of gasifier wastewater is a           challenge for 
us. As we look forward to installing small scale           gasifiers around the 
world we need to solve this problem .           What are your solutions for 
filtering and remediating gasifier           scrubber water? One solution might 
be running continuous           blowdown though a vegetated biological filter 
where the           biochar is used as part of the media. What have you tried?
          
         Tom
          
         T R Miles Technical Consultants Inc
         Portland, OR 97225
         [email protected]
         www.trmiles.com
          
         Characterisation of waste water from           biomass gasification 
equipment: A case-study from Cambodia
         Article in World Review of Science           Technology and 
Sustainable Development           12(2):126-151 · December 2015
         DOI: 10.1504/WRSTSD.2015.073829
          
         Abstract
         The gasification of rice husks for           small-scale power 
generation in rice mills and other small           factories in Cambodia has 
spread rapidly in the past decade           and has a favourable investment 
payback period where the           facility is off-grid. The technology is 
widely regarded as a           sustainable, low-carbon power option. However, 
installed           gasification technologies produce a black waste water which 
is           frequently disposed of into the local environment without any      
     treatment. An analysis was undertaken to identify and measure           
the key potential contaminants and compare concentrations in           the 
water and sediment with regulatory thresholds established           in Cambodia 
and within other jurisdictions. It was found that           concentrations of 
organic contaminants such as phenols and           benzene-type molecules 
(BETX) (water and sediment) and           polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons 
(PAHs) (sediment), as well as           macro water quality indicators, were 
far higher than           regulatory thresholds prescribe, posing threats to 
sensitive           aquatic ecosystems into which such waste is introduced.
          
          
          
          
       
       
              
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