Hi Nicolo.
Thank you (but I believe that giving me an offer is irrelevant to the
purpose of this list, isn't it?)
Now to the point:
According to my calulations, if we consider that a saturated genset exhaust
stream is @ 415 oC with absolute humidity of 800 gr/kgr (stream A, this is
what I ask - if its humidity is correct) and we mix it 50%-50% with ambient
air of 25 oC with 50% relative humidity(stream B), the resulting stream will
be a mixture of about 220 oC with an absolute humidity ~400 gr/kgr(stream
C).
This mixture stream C has a drying potential, but I do not know if the
assumption on stream A is correct.
Any ideas?
Best Regards
Dimitris
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Dear Rolf,Leland,Nicolo
thank you for your replies,
but still I got no clue what "saturated" genset exhaust looks like from
physics point of view...
Anybody?
Best Regards
Dimitris
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Hello all.
Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven genset
in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)?
I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is
saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere.
What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or absolute
humidity (gr/kgr)?
Best Regards
Dimitris
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Hallo Dimitris,
no idea if syngas exhaust behaves differently from diesel exhaust, but the
latter comes out at around 400 ?C and can be very well used to dry wet
biomass. It should be mixed with ambient air so as not to pyrolize or even
ignite the biomass.
I once spoke to people from Central America who had a very simple setup:
A sort of tower where the raw biomass is filled in at the top and the
exhaust/air comes from below in counterflow.
They said that the humidity was driven off to the top and dry stuff could
be taken out below.
Seems simple...
best regards
Rolf
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Hello all.
Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven genset
in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)?
I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is
saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere.
What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or
absolute humidity (gr/kgr)?
Best Regards
Dimitris
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hello
we know we must offer our system
is it ok?
2016-03-23 18:38 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Tzagkas - KOKARAS AND ASSOCIATES <
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Dear Rolf,Leland,Nicolo
thank you for your replies,
but still I got no clue what "saturated" genset exhaust looks like from
physics point of view...
Anybody?
Best Regards
Dimitris
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> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven
genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)?
> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is
saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere.
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> Hallo Dimitris,
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> no idea if syngas exhaust behaves differently from diesel exhaust, but
the latter comes out at around 400 ?C and can be very well used to dry wet
biomass. It should be mixed with ambient air so as not to pyrolize or even
ignite the biomass.
> I once spoke to people from Central America who had a very simple setup:
> A sort of tower where the raw biomass is filled in at the top and the
exhaust/air comes from below in counterflow.
> They said that the humidity was driven off to the top and dry stuff
could be taken out below.
> Seems simple...
>
> best regards
>
> Rolf
>
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> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:50:01 +0200
> "DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Hello all.
>> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven
genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)?
>> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is
saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere.
>> What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or
absolute humidity (gr/kgr)?
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Dimitris
>
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