Hello sorry I ll be back Monday
regards 2016-03-23 20:01 GMT+01:00 DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES < [email protected]>: > Hi Nicolo. > Thank you (but I believe that giving me an offer is irrelevant to the > purpose of this list, isn't it?) > Now to the point: > According to my calulations, if we consider that a saturated genset > exhaust stream is @ 415 oC with absolute humidity of 800 gr/kgr (stream A, > this is what I ask - if its humidity is correct) and we mix it 50%-50% with > ambient air of 25 oC with 50% relative humidity(stream B), the resulting > stream will be a mixture of about 220 oC with an absolute humidity ~400 > gr/kgr(stream C). > This mixture stream C has a drying potential, but I do not know if the > assumption on stream A is correct. > Any ideas? > Best Regards > Dimitris > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Gasification Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3 > > Send Gasification mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gasification digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Gasification Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2 > (Dimitris Tzagkas - KOKARAS AND ASSOCIATES) > 2. Re: Gasification Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2 (Nicol? Cerni) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:38:12 +0200 > From: Dimitris Tzagkas - KOKARAS AND ASSOCIATES <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Gasification Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dear Rolf,Leland,Nicolo > thank you for your replies, > but still I got no clue what "saturated" genset exhaust looks like from > physics point of view... > Anybody? > Best Regards > Dimitris > > On 22/3/2016 8:00 ??, [email protected] wrote: > >> Send Gasification mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Gasification digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Drying using a syngas genset exhaust >> (DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES) >> 2. Re: Drying using a syngas genset exhaust (Energies Naturals C.B.) >> 3. Re: Drying using a syngas genset exhaust ([email protected]) >> 4. Re: Drying using a syngas genset exhaust (Nicol? Cerni) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:50:01 +0200 >> From: "DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Gasification] Drying using a syngas genset exhaust >> Message-ID: <42F812A1CF574A238B33CED7CDEFE230@DimitrisPC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hello all. >> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven genset >> in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)? >> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is >> saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere. >> What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or >> absolute humidity (gr/kgr)? >> >> Best Regards >> Dimitris >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20160321/bf5a7819/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:59:08 +0100 >> From: "Energies Naturals C.B." <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Drying using a syngas genset exhaust >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> Hallo Dimitris, >> >> no idea if syngas exhaust behaves differently from diesel exhaust, but >> the latter comes out at around 400 ?C and can be very well used to dry wet >> biomass. It should be mixed with ambient air so as not to pyrolize or even >> ignite the biomass. >> I once spoke to people from Central America who had a very simple setup: >> A sort of tower where the raw biomass is filled in at the top and the >> exhaust/air comes from below in counterflow. >> They said that the humidity was driven off to the top and dry stuff could >> be taken out below. >> Seems simple... >> >> best regards >> >> Rolf >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:50:01 +0200 >> "DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello all. >>> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven >>> genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)? >>> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is >>> saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere. >>> What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or >>> absolute humidity (gr/kgr)? >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Dimitris >>> >> >> > -- > ??????, > > ???????? ??????? > ????.???????????? ????????? - MSc > _______________________________________ > ??????? & ?????????? > ?????????? 12 > ?????? > ?.?. 41222 > ???./FAX:2410256400 > www.kokaras.gr > _______________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:48:27 +0100 > From: Nicol? Cerni <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Gasification Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2 > Message-ID: > <caa0zrvchr-am70arizwritoso8ikm+gjwysp89mg8iej1b_...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > hello > we know we must offer our system > is it ok? > > > 2016-03-23 18:38 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Tzagkas - KOKARAS AND ASSOCIATES < > [email protected]>: > > Dear Rolf,Leland,Nicolo >> thank you for your replies, >> but still I got no clue what "saturated" genset exhaust looks like from >> physics point of view... >> Anybody? >> Best Regards >> Dimitris >> >> On 22/3/2016 8:00 ??, [email protected] >> wrote: >> > Send Gasification mailing list submissions to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> > >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > [email protected] >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of Gasification digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Drying using a syngas genset exhaust >> > (DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES) >> > 2. Re: Drying using a syngas genset exhaust (Energies Naturals C.B.) >> > 3. Re: Drying using a syngas genset exhaust ([email protected]) >> > 4. Re: Drying using a syngas genset exhaust (Nicol? Cerni) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:50:01 +0200 >> > From: "DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Subject: [Gasification] Drying using a syngas genset exhaust >> > Message-ID: <42F812A1CF574A238B33CED7CDEFE230@DimitrisPC> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> > >> > Hello all. >> > Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven >> genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)? >> > I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is >> saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere. >> > What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or >> absolute humidity (gr/kgr)? >> > >> > Best Regards >> > Dimitris >> > -------------- next part -------------- >> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> > URL: < >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20160321/bf5a7819/attachment-0001.html >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:59:08 +0100 >> > From: "Energies Naturals C.B." <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Drying using a syngas genset exhaust >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> > >> > >> > Hallo Dimitris, >> > >> > no idea if syngas exhaust behaves differently from diesel exhaust, but >> the latter comes out at around 400 ?C and can be very well used to dry wet >> biomass. It should be mixed with ambient air so as not to pyrolize or even >> ignite the biomass. >> > I once spoke to people from Central America who had a very simple setup: >> > A sort of tower where the raw biomass is filled in at the top and the >> exhaust/air comes from below in counterflow. >> > They said that the humidity was driven off to the top and dry stuff >> could be taken out below. >> > Seems simple... >> > >> > best regards >> > >> > Rolf >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:50:01 +0200 >> > "DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Hello all. >> >> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven >> genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)? >> >> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is >> saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere. >> >> What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or >> absolute humidity (gr/kgr)? >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> >> Dimitris >> > >> >> -- >> ??????, >> >> ???????? 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