I wouldnt be surprised if the 2013 game @ Miami is the first game of the
year.




On 9/3/08, Oliver Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I agree with Mike on most of his points.  We are arrogant about Miami.
> We don't need them, they, along with f$U need us.  Miami should've been
> rolling over to get us decent tickets, which they didn't do.  We are all
> suffering for this, me included.  I hate not being able to play them every
> year.  F$U brags every year about playing both of us and being the state
> champs.  Of course, they're not, but they have to have something.
>
> I don't agree with him about the games getting smaller either.  At least
> they're not for us.  No wonder Miami can't fill their stadium.  No wonder
> the semis can't fill theirs.  We, on the other hand, have 119 sellouts in a
> row!
>
> Suck up semis and scum!!  Roll over or we'll never give you a chance to
> play another big time football power.
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2008 12:48 PM
> *To:* gatortalk googlegroups
> *Subject:* [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Ego, money sacking good grid
> rivalries
>
>
>
> <<Because arrogance and ego and, of course, greed have hijacked college
> football.>>
> <<the games just keep getting smaller and smaller.>>
> <<but I believe the death of the series had more to do with UF's feeling of
> superiority than UF's ticket priority.>>
>
> <<how about giving in-state fans a game they can get juiced about?>>
>
> <<that "national" schedule turned into dog-food games against teams like
> Montana State and Louisiana Tech.>>
>
>
>
> Is Mike Bianchi:
>
> A. Stupid
>
> B. Jealous
>
> C. Just trying to piss us off
>
> D. Has a deadline and needs to spew any old junk
>
> E. All of the above
>
>
>
> The games do NOT keep getting smaller and smaller.  There are plenty of
> games to get "juiced about".  Tenn, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, South
> Carolina, FSU, the SEC championship.  Yes we squeeze a couple of easy teams
> - usually at the beginning of the year - but our strength of schedule is
> still much higher than most of the other 115/120 division 1 schools.
>
>
>
> The money is poured into the university and the athletics program.  Which
> does what?  Brings in more big time recruits.  The program is self
> supporting.  How much $$$ does FSU and Miami have to charge the citizens of
> the state of Florida each year to showcase "thugs on a field"?
>
>
>
> I agree with him about one thing - we don't need Miami.  Miami and FSU
> could have joined the SEC - but they chose the ACC - which about as
> difficult as the leagues that USF and UCF play in.  And Miami and FSU knew
> exactly what they were doing in joining the ACC instead of the SEC.
>
>
>
> I hope this guy is on the sidelines and Patchan takes a personal foul again
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [gatornews] Ego, money sacking good grid rivalries
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, September 03, 2008 1:20 pm
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  *Ego, money sacking good grid rivalries*
>
> [image: Mike 
> Bianchi]<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/columnists/orl-bianchi,0,3285093.columnist>
>   Mike Bianchi | SPORTS COMMENTARY
>
> September 3, 2008
>
> Tim 
> Tebow<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/tim-tebow-PESPT008528.topic>'s
> eyes flashed with excitement and his voice raised a couple of decibels when
> the subject of playing the Miami 
> Hurricanes<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/miami-hurricanes-ORSPT000191.topic>came
>  up.
>
> "Playing the 'U' is something I've never done before and I'm excited about
> it," chirped the University of 
> Florida<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/education/colleges-universities/university-of-florida-OREDU0000153.topic>quarterback
>  in reference to the rare renewal of the UF-UM rivalry this
> weekend.
>
> "I think we should play Miami every year. That would be awesome. I'd love
> it."
>
> Everybody would love it. The players. The fans. The media.
>
> Everybody.
>
> But Florida and Miami don't play every year for the same reason UCF and
> South Florida are likely ending their four-year series after Saturday's
> game: Because arrogance and ego and, of course, greed have hijacked college
> football.
>
> Remember when college football was supposed to be about the players and the
> fans and the student body? Well, now it's about bean-counting athletic
> administrators and ego-driven coaches.
>
> "When the stakes are this high, everything changes," said Bill Carr, the
> former UF athletic director who took part in the failed negotiations that
> helped kill the annual Miami series in the mid-1980s.
>
> Back then the 
> Gators<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/florida-gators-ORSPT000172.topic>were
>  just getting out of debt as an athletic program, and one of the main
> reasons they dropped Miami was to add another home game to help balance
> their budget. To this day, Carr insists UF would have kept playing UM if
> former UM athletic director Sam Jankovich had just agreed to give UF fans
> better seats in the Orange 
> Bowl<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/orange-bowl-PLTRA0000003.topic>
> .
>
> Maybe so, but I believe the death of the series had more to do with UF's
> feeling of superiority than UF's ticket priority. The Gators felt UM needed
> them more than they needed UM. They felt they were subsidizing UM's budget
> by guaranteeing a rare sellout in the Orange Bowl every other year. And it
> wasn't just coincidence that they dropped Miami just as the Hurricanes
> turned into regular national-title contenders.
>
> The Gators tried to soften the PR blow by saying they were dropping Miami
> to play a more "national" schedule. Of course, that "national" schedule
> turned into dog-food games against teams like Montana State and Louisiana
> Tech.
>
> It's pretty telling that Carr, even today, expresses the same sentiment
> that ran rampant back then.
>
> "Florida," he said, "doesn't need to play Miami."
>
> He's right, of course. The Gators don't need to play Miami, just as South
> Florida doesn't need to play UCF. But -- and I know this a foreign concept
> in today's big-money BCS world -- how about giving in-state fans a game they
> can get juiced about?
>
> Is there any question UCF fans and players get more jazzed about USF than
> any other opponent? And if USF fans were honest, they'd tell you the same
> about UCF. But it doesn't matter to USF Coach Jim Leavitt, who is about to
> kill a perfectly good rivalry. And why? Because of ego run amok, that's why.
>
> Because Leavitt is infected with the same "you need us more than we need
> you" attitude the Gators had so many years ago.
>
> UCF Coach George 
> O'Leary<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/george-oleary-PESPT008434.topic>seems
>  tired of lobbying for the continuation of the USF series but still
> stated his case yet again Tuesday.
>
> "I think it's a great game for both fan bases," O'Leary said. "I think it's
> a natural game that provides a great college atmosphere. I'm not much for
> traveling five or six states over to play a game when we've got one 60 miles
> away. But it's not a big deal. If they don't want to play, we'll move on."
>
> I don't know what's worse -- USF's inexplicable arrogance or UF's incessant
> money grab.
>
> Let's face it, now that college teams play 12 regular-season games, the
> Gators could easily play Miami every year. Florida doesn't really need a
> seventh home game. The Gators -- bankrolled by millionaire boosters and a
> billion-dollar Southeastern Conference TV package -- are a money machine.
> They could easily subtract one home game every other year, play Miami and
> not even notice it in their budget.
>
> "Why would we want to do that?" UF Athletic Director Jeremy Foley said.
> "Why would you want to take $2 million out of your pocket every other year?"
>
> Such is the business of college football.
>
> In order to indulge bigger and bigger athletic budgets and bigger and
> bigger egos, the games just keep getting smaller and smaller.
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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