Thanks Bill, now I've got something else to worry about!!! (que Star Trek music here) :-) Oliver I hit Ctrl-Enter instead of Enter dang it... here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0bj76389U&eurl=http://www.surviving2012.net (Not gator-related, sorry)
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I wouldnt be surprised if the 2013 game @ Miami is the first game of
the year.
On 9/3/08, Oliver Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree with Mike on most of his points. We are arrogant about
Miami. We don't need them, they, along with f$U need us. Miami should've been
rolling over to get us decent tickets, which they didn't do. We are all
suffering for this, me included. I hate not being able to play them every
year. F$U brags every year about playing both of us and being the state
champs. Of course, they're not, but they have to have something.
I don't agree with him about the games getting smaller either.
At least they're not for us. No wonder Miami can't fill their stadium. No
wonder the semis can't fill theirs. We, on the other hand, have 119 sellouts
in a row!
Suck up semis and scum!! Roll over or we'll never give you a
chance to play another big time football power.
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<<Because arrogance and ego and, of course, greed have hijacked
college football.>>
<<the games just keep getting smaller and smaller.>>
<<but I believe the death of the series had more to do with
UF's feeling of superiority than UF's ticket priority.>>
<<how about giving in-state fans a game they can get juiced
about?>>
<<that "national" schedule turned into dog-food games against
teams like Montana State and Louisiana Tech.>>
Is Mike Bianchi:
A. Stupid
B. Jealous
C. Just trying to piss us off
D. Has a deadline and needs to spew any old junk
E. All of the above
The games do NOT keep getting smaller and smaller. There are
plenty of games to get "juiced about". Tenn, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Auburn,
South Carolina, FSU, the SEC championship. Yes we squeeze a couple of easy
teams - usually at the beginning of the year - but our strength of schedule is
still much higher than most of the other 115/120 division 1 schools.
The money is poured into the university and the athletics
program. Which does what? Brings in more big time recruits. The program is
self supporting. How much $$$ does FSU and Miami have to charge the citizens
of the state of Florida each year to showcase "thugs on a field"?
I agree with him about one thing - we don't need Miami. Miami
and FSU could have joined the SEC - but they chose the ACC - which about as
difficult as the leagues that USF and UCF play in. And Miami and FSU knew
exactly what they were doing in joining the ACC instead of the SEC.
I hope this guy is on the sidelines and Patchan takes a
personal foul again ...
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Ego, money sacking good grid rivalries
Mike Bianchi
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/columnists/orl-bianchi,0,3285093.columnist>
Mike Bianchi | SPORTS COMMENTARY
September 3, 2008
Tim Tebow
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/tim-tebow-PESPT008528.topic>
's eyes flashed with excitement and his voice raised a couple of decibels when
the subject of playing the Miami Hurricanes
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/miami-hurricanes-ORSPT000191.topic>
came up.
"Playing the 'U' is something I've never done before
and I'm excited about it," chirped the University of Florida
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/education/colleges-universities/university-of-florida-OREDU0000153.topic>
quarterback in reference to the rare renewal of the UF-UM rivalry this
weekend.
"I think we should play Miami every year. That would be
awesome. I'd love it."
Everybody would love it. The players. The fans. The
media.
Everybody.
But Florida and Miami don't play every year for the
same reason UCF and South Florida are likely ending their four-year series
after Saturday's game: Because arrogance and ego and, of course, greed have
hijacked college football.
Remember when college football was supposed to be about
the players and the fans and the student body? Well, now it's about
bean-counting athletic administrators and ego-driven coaches.
"When the stakes are this high, everything changes,"
said Bill Carr, the former UF athletic director who took part in the failed
negotiations that helped kill the annual Miami series in the mid-1980s.
Back then the Gators
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/florida-gators-ORSPT000172.topic>
were just getting out of debt as an athletic program, and one of the main
reasons they dropped Miami was to add another home game to help balance their
budget. To this day, Carr insists UF would have kept playing UM if former UM
athletic director Sam Jankovich had just agreed to give UF fans better seats in
the Orange Bowl
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/orange-bowl-PLTRA0000003.topic>
.
Maybe so, but I believe the death of the series had
more to do with UF's feeling of superiority than UF's ticket priority. The
Gators felt UM needed them more than they needed UM. They felt they were
subsidizing UM's budget by guaranteeing a rare sellout in the Orange Bowl every
other year. And it wasn't just coincidence that they dropped Miami just as the
Hurricanes turned into regular national-title contenders.
The Gators tried to soften the PR blow by saying they
were dropping Miami to play a more "national" schedule. Of course, that
"national" schedule turned into dog-food games against teams like Montana State
and Louisiana Tech.
It's pretty telling that Carr, even today, expresses
the same sentiment that ran rampant back then.
"Florida," he said, "doesn't need to play Miami."
He's right, of course. The Gators don't need to play
Miami, just as South Florida doesn't need to play UCF. But -- and I know this a
foreign concept in today's big-money BCS world -- how about giving in-state
fans a game they can get juiced about?
Is there any question UCF fans and players get more
jazzed about USF than any other opponent? And if USF fans were honest, they'd
tell you the same about UCF. But it doesn't matter to USF Coach Jim Leavitt,
who is about to kill a perfectly good rivalry. And why? Because of ego run
amok, that's why.
Because Leavitt is infected with the same "you need us
more than we need you" attitude the Gators had so many years ago.
UCF Coach George O'Leary
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/george-oleary-PESPT008434.topic>
seems tired of lobbying for the continuation of the USF series but still
stated his case yet again Tuesday.
"I think it's a great game for both fan bases," O'Leary
said. "I think it's a natural game that provides a great college atmosphere.
I'm not much for traveling five or six states over to play a game when we've
got one 60 miles away. But it's not a big deal. If they don't want to play,
we'll move on."
I don't know what's worse -- USF's inexplicable
arrogance or UF's incessant money grab.
Let's face it, now that college teams play 12
regular-season games, the Gators could easily play Miami every year. Florida
doesn't really need a seventh home game. The Gators -- bankrolled by
millionaire boosters and a billion-dollar Southeastern Conference TV package --
are a money machine. They could easily subtract one home game every other year,
play Miami and not even notice it in their budget.
"Why would we want to do that?" UF Athletic Director
Jeremy Foley said. "Why would you want to take $2 million out of your pocket
every other year?"
Such is the business of college football.
In order to indulge bigger and bigger athletic budgets
and bigger and bigger egos, the games just keep getting smaller and smaller.
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