Yeah, that's what I meant. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of A. Leon Polhill Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [gatortalk] Re: F$U penalties and their consequences
It seems to be at least preeminently imminent, Wetherell's preeminence notwithstanding. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Jay Cicone > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: F$U penalties and their consequences > > > Hey, Buddy!! Glad you are back as well. There is an eminent press > conference > scheduled by Wetherell and get this---I’m not making this up---he wants to > ask the NCAA exactly “…what they mean by ineligible players, for > instance,” > Wetherell said. Is he getting advice from Clinton on this stuff?????? > ...yes, I said eminent. Oh, and it's imminent. > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of A. Leon Polhill > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: F$U penalties and their consequences > > Does this mean that NCAA sanctions are imminent, Jay? > > p.s. It’s good to be back. > > > A. Leon Polhill > FlaNative1845 > 330 NW 45th Street > Gainesville, FL 32607 > (352) 367-4642 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Jerry Belloit > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [gatortalk] F$U penalties and their consequences > > I have had some time to look at the F$U penalties and I would like to > offer > the following two points: > > First, it is possible that the number of vacated wins will not be as large > as people might think. The number of wins vacated is of course the number > of wins where F$U had ineligible players playing—not the number of wins > where the cheating students were involved as reported by the Associated > Press. > > However, the way F$U handled the cheating, they made it fairly easy for a > player to avoid the loss of eligibility. As I posted previously, there are > two issues that define a student's eligibility. First their overall > academic > grade average (QPA). The student must maintain a minimum average. > Normally, > at almost all universities, a student who is caught committing academic > fraud is given a failing grade for the course. That failing grade would > significantly lower the student's QPA. In this case, however, F$U simply > disenrolled the students from the course. Other than the loss of credits, > this had no impact on their QPA. The only exception to this was a case > where > the student made an A or B in the Art class that was needed to raise their > QPA to the required minimum level. By "vacating" the course, the student > lost the benefit of the higher grade. > > The second issue is the requirement that the students must complete a > minimum number of credit hours during the academic year. Students with > insufficient hours can sometimes take enough credits during the following > term or during the summer to meet their minimum requirement. > > The difficulty for the NCAA in this case is to determine if the students > first had the academic average to remain eligible after the course was > "vacated" or disenrolled and second had enough hours to remain eligible > during the preceding academic year. (This is a little more complicated > since > the university must determine how many hours the student completed before > the close of the previous academic year since football is a fall sport.) > > Second, the cheating on the Art courses will probably have a significant > longer term consequence in that it will likely impact the APR for the > school. F$U will likely lose more scholarships that the original > penalties > due to the APR. The APR calculation will likely drop significantly because > of the students who took the Music class will have their previously > reported > credits reduced by that one class. While we do not and cannot get access > to > the actual student records, it is very likely that several of the students > who got caught cheating will now not have completed the required hours to > achieve the NCAA minimum required score on the Academic Progress Rating > (APR). Since this is a five-year rolling average, the two years of the > problem course is likely to have a significant impact. (To illustrate the > power of the APR, Temple University lost nine scholarships because of > their > low APR. For more information try here: > http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=329 > > While I intended this treatise to clear up some of the confusion about the > sanctions, I probably have contributed to it. > > Jerry > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
