Keith,

 

As per your resume, I would actually have two.  One resume would be an 
executive summary of one page that highlights your education,  most important 
employment history, and any relevant certifications.  This would be followed by 
a detailed resume.  Be sure not to include any indication of gender or family 
status.  I also would be careful about including any community service 
activities that would suggest religion, family status, or gender.  Employers 
are not allowed to consider gender, religion, or family status.  To include 
these items might keep you from getting an interview since the employer might 
later face your resume in court (against someone else) and they would not want 
to have any evidence that they discriminated against a protected class.

 

When you interview a company, remember that often your first interview will be 
with someone who is not an IT guy but rather an HR guy.  You are there to 
“sell” yourself AND discover if the employer is a fit for you.  Consequently, 
do your pre-interview research.  Find out as much about the company as you can. 
 In the interview, ask intelligent questions about the company’s future.  Don’t 
ask about benefits—it shows the interviewer that you are interested in the 
benefits, not the job.  If you progress, you will eventually meet with the 
benefits person and he or she will tell you all you need to know.  Remember 
that while they are interviewing you, you are also interviewing the company.  

 

Being laid off is an ego hit.  However, you need to interview with the attitude 
that the company should be honored to have you as an employee.  You are skilled 
and hard working.  You can probably produce twice what a new kid out of college 
can do.  While your financial situation may be desperate, don’t let that 
desperation be seen or felt by the prospective employer.  Keep eye contact, and 
watch your body language.  Think before you speak and choose your words 
carefully.  Show them your VALUE to them and how you can make them money.

 

If you are applying for a position that is beneath your skill set, be frank 
about it and address it in the interview.  You might say something like this, 
“I know my qualifications and resume exceeds the requirements for this 
position.  Frankly, I would enjoy doing this kind of work again.”

 

I hope this helps.

 

Jerry

 

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 6:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: career advice

 

Based on what I am hearing - I've decided that the best things I can do is - 
dumb down my resume.  

 

I get so many recruiters that say - I can't follow your resume.  Well - I work 
60+ hours per week so I am working on several projects at one time.  Instead of 
that proving that I am a hard working person - that turns into a negative 
against me!

 

I'm convinced that if I act like a dumb, mindless, person that barely shows up 
for work, barely can do 40 hours per week, does slightly above average work 
(not great or exceptional though) - I'd be much better off.

 

My original idea of showing all my quality experience over 20 years seems 
stupid in retrospect - because no one wants you to have experience past 5 
years. 

 

So I'm dumbing down my resume.  I think I'll keep it as it is for very high 
(and very rare) positions asking for more than 10 years experience.  This 
resume will hardly ever be sent out.  Then kind of dumb resume for people 
wanting 5 years experience.  Then dumb as rocks for people wanting a couple of 
years experience.  

 

Maybe I should come up with new slogan:

 

Keith - the really dumb programmer.  

 

That should boost my responses significantly.  

 

 

Which brings me to my next question.  What do you advise young people to do 
today for a career?  The only two things I can think of are law and medicine - 
but if you talk to people in those professions - they are trying to get out of 
them.  

 

Do you advise anyone to get a college degree?  It use to be a great idea.  Now 
companies would rather hire someone with a degree from China or India.  

 

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Cecilia
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips

 

My income definitely started over when I changed career focus.  And, 7 years 
after I left an accounting career spanning 3 decades, I cannot even get an 
interview for an accounting job.  They either think I'm over-qualified because 
of my years of experience... or I'm too far out of touch in the accounting 
world because of the years I was doing something else.  It really stinks.

 

So... I shifted my focus to getting a teaching job and still can't get hired, 
especially now that we are seeing more budget cuts hitting schools.  :-/

 

Cee

----- Original Message ----- 

From: [email protected] 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:29 AM

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips

 

This is getting off Gators - so if we need to move it somewhere else - I 
understand

 

Things are so tight and different today.  

 

I am 47 years old now and already seeing the age discrimination thing - even 
though there is suppose to be a shortage of skilled workers in programming.  

 

20+ years of experience, plus BS and Master's no longer seems to matter.

 

Being able to "figure things out" no longer seems to matter.  People use to 
hire me to go figure out how to do things.  Nowadays - unless you've been doing 
something for 3 to 5 years - they assume you have no clue and never will be 
able to figure it out.

 

What you did several years ago does not matter.  For 20+ years I did 
manufacturing automation.  Have done very little in the last 7 years.  My 
resume only goes back about 7 years.  People are looking for someone in 
automation - look at my resume - and tell me that I have no knowledge or 
experience.  

 

How does someone change jobs and maintain an income the same?  If you 
completely start over - doesn't your income?  Doesn't your income drop to 1/4 
of what it was?

 

Times are a changing ...

 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips
From: Helen Huntley <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 7:40 am
To: [email protected]

You try to figure out what else you can do. I took a buyout from the St. Pete 
Times last year because I could see that things were only going to get worse 
for the newspaper industry. Because I was personal finance editor, I thought 
reinventing myself as a financial adviser was a logical course of action. 
(http://www.holifieldhuntley.com/) I also have been doing some freelance 
writing and research. For example, I helped with the research for this book: 
http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Your-Money-Getting-Fortune/dp/0767929845/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
 
<http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Your-Money-Getting-Fortune/dp/0767929845/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236944055&sr=1-1>
 &s=books&qid=1236944055&sr=1-1 .

So far things are working out. However, my husband works in local government, 
where they are planning major layoffs, so he could be job hunting later this 
year.

Helen

 

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

I was thinking about that similar thing today.  I think that the Raleigh 
newspaper laid off its sports writers and now th only sports writers are in 
Charlotte covering the whole state.  

 

If all you've ever done is go to college for something, and done something for 
like 20 years - what do you do when you are laid off and no one is hiring in 
your field?  It seems kind of ridiculous going back to school - after you've 
already graduated with a bachelor's or Master's.  

 

 

 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gatortalk] Herald sports writer Mike Phillips
From: Helen Huntley <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, March 12, 2009 3:58 pm
To: gatortalk <[email protected]>

Is one of the Miami Herald writers who lost his job this week in the big layoff 
they had, according to a report I read. We've often had his stories posted to 
Gator News.

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