You must not have checked out any of my pics on Facebook. ;-)
Cee
----- Original Message -----
From: Gatornet Admin
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: career advice
YOU have SILVER hair??? I thought you would always be a brunette! ;-)
My wife opted for blond after her hair turned silver.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Cecilia
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: career advice
Yes, Randy... that's it, exactly! And then, if I *do* get an interview,
they're really taken aback by my lovely silver hair. :-/
Cee
----- Original Message -----
From: Gatornet Admin
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: career advice
Prior to '89, I was a field engineer living in Jax who worked throughout
the state of Florida, Puerto Rico and South America, but I can't include that
experience because it "dates" me. I was a Systems Sales Engineer from '89 till
2001, and I have even been tempted to remove THAT era from my resume, as well.
I REALLY believe they (potential interviewers) are running the numbers
and coming up with an old guy somewhere over 50 years old and then they trash
my resume.
Are we at Solyent Green already? Should I just volunteer for recycling?
;-)
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: career advice
Based on what I am hearing - I've decided that the best things I can do
is - dumb down my resume.
I get so many recruiters that say - I can't follow your resume. Well -
I work 60+ hours per week so I am working on several projects at one time.
Instead of that proving that I am a hard working person - that turns into a
negative against me!
I'm convinced that if I act like a dumb, mindless, person that barely
shows up for work, barely can do 40 hours per week, does slightly above average
work (not great or exceptional though) - I'd be much better off.
My original idea of showing all my quality experience over 20 years
seems stupid in retrospect - because no one wants you to have experience past 5
years.
So I'm dumbing down my resume. I think I'll keep it as it is for very
high (and very rare) positions asking for more than 10 years experience. This
resume will hardly ever be sent out. Then kind of dumb resume for people
wanting 5 years experience. Then dumb as rocks for people wanting a couple of
years experience.
Maybe I should come up with new slogan:
Keith - the really dumb programmer.
That should boost my responses significantly.
Which brings me to my next question. What do you advise young people
to do today for a career? The only two things I can think of are law and
medicine - but if you talk to people in those professions - they are trying to
get out of them.
Do you advise anyone to get a college degree? It use to be a great
idea. Now companies would rather hire someone with a degree from China or
India.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips
My income definitely started over when I changed career focus.
And, 7 years after I left an accounting career spanning 3 decades, I cannot
even get an interview for an accounting job. They either think I'm
over-qualified because of my years of experience... or I'm too far out of touch
in the accounting world because of the years I was doing something else. It
really stinks.
So... I shifted my focus to getting a teaching job and still can't
get hired, especially now that we are seeing more budget cuts hitting schools.
:-/
Cee
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:29 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips
This is getting off Gators - so if we need to move it somewhere
else - I understand
Things are so tight and different today.
I am 47 years old now and already seeing the age discrimination
thing - even though there is suppose to be a shortage of skilled workers in
programming.
20+ years of experience, plus BS and Master's no longer seems to
matter.
Being able to "figure things out" no longer seems to matter.
People use to hire me to go figure out how to do things. Nowadays - unless
you've been doing something for 3 to 5 years - they assume you have no clue and
never will be able to figure it out.
What you did several years ago does not matter. For 20+ years I
did manufacturing automation. Have done very little in the last 7 years. My
resume only goes back about 7 years. People are looking for someone in
automation - look at my resume - and tell me that I have no knowledge or
experience.
How does someone change jobs and maintain an income the same? If
you completely start over - doesn't your income? Doesn't your income drop to
1/4 of what it was?
Times are a changing ...
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips
From: Helen Huntley <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 7:40 am
To: [email protected]
You try to figure out what else you can do. I took a buyout
from the St. Pete Times last year because I could see that things were only
going to get worse for the newspaper industry. Because I was personal finance
editor, I thought reinventing myself as a financial adviser was a logical
course of action. (http://www.holifieldhuntley.com/) I also have been doing
some freelance writing and research. For example, I helped with the research
for this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Your-Money-Getting-Fortune/dp/0767929845/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236944055&sr=1-1
.
So far things are working out. However, my husband works in
local government, where they are planning major layoffs, so he could be job
hunting later this year.
Helen
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
I was thinking about that similar thing today. I think that
the Raleigh newspaper laid off its sports writers and now th only sports
writers are in Charlotte covering the whole state.
If all you've ever done is go to college for something, and
done something for like 20 years - what do you do when you are laid off and no
one is hiring in your field? It seems kind of ridiculous going back to school
- after you've already graduated with a bachelor's or Master's.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gatortalk] Herald sports writer Mike Phillips
From: Helen Huntley <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, March 12, 2009 3:58 pm
To: gatortalk <[email protected]>
Is one of the Miami Herald writers who lost his job this
week in the big layoff they had, according to a report I read. We've often had
his stories posted to Gator News.
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