I'm saving all Gator kicks for the most disgusting Dawgs in the universe.  ;-)

Cee
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  Well, let's invoke the "Helen Rule" and move on to important business. 
  Who has kicked their dog today? I know I have... Twice! I feel much better 
now. :-)
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  From: Helen Huntley <[email protected]> 
  Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:59:16 -0400
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  I do not like thuggish behavior either. However, the part that made me upset 
was that he risked the security of the ball in the process. Behavior that 
results in fumbles, costly penalties, overturned TDs, etc. is the problem. I am 
happy to let Meyer decide how to handle it.


   
  On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Randy Platt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Oliver,



    I know your are not picking on me.  And just for the record I didn't think
    much of Spike's punt, Caldwell or McGriff's throws into the stands, or
    Anthony's pump action shotgun routine from the SECCG.  I understand your are
    dealing with 18 - 23 year old young men and it doesn't always work out the
    way I think it should.  I also believe you need a little bit of thugery, not
    sure that is a word, to play great defense.  Another post for another time.
    I didn't like it, but I do understand it, so, I am over it and I am moving
    on, which was the real point I was trying to make.






    Randy Platt

    aka "PCGator"

    aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

    aka "The Other Randy"




    Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!













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    Behalf Of Oliver Barry
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    Yes, Dustin Doe did a bad thing.  But, I have to wonder why all this anger
    about it.

    Are we really as bad as Miami because Doe took two steps in a "showboating"
    style?

    Have we really become the manifestation of evil because of it?

    Where was all this anger last season when Brandon Spikes kicked the ball
    into the stands?  Or, where was it a couple of years ago when Travis McGriff
    threw the ball in the stands.

    Doe made a boo boo.  So, let's get over it.  I would remind everyone that
    was the first defensive touchdown of the year.  Leon, you were there, didn't
    you get sick of the cowbells?  Well, the whole team was.  Urban Meyer even
    mentioned it later in some post-game interview.

    Have we forgotten this was the first time the Gators have won in Starkeville
    since 1985?  Wasn't that the Charlie Pell era?

    Randy, I'm not just trying to pick on you here, but your email seemed like a
    good place to bring it up.

    No, we don't need to have any repeats of it.  But, yes, Urban Meyer will
    deal with it.  Let's all get over it and congratulate the kid, after he does
    his stadium steps, of course...



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    There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it was fumble directly related
    to Doe's "showboating".  I believed it when I saw it live, I believed it
    when I saw the replay live, and I believe it now.  For whatever reason you
    want to lay blame, IMMHO, the refs blew the call.  I am grateful to the
    football gods for allowing the Gators this good fortune.  I believe Doe's
    antics are indeed reminders of SCUM teams of the past and it makes my skin
    crawl to see one of my beloved Gators behave in this manner.  Shane is not
    the only member of the "old school" philosophy, unfortunately I, too,  am an
    analog man living a digital world when it comes to the proper decorum on a
    football field.  I am also reminded that you can't always get what you want.
    And while I certainly think that Doe should and will be punished for his
    behavior, I truly believe that my opinion would not be greeted with
    universal acceptance anymore than anyone else's would.  Therefore, I am more
    than willing  to let Meyer make the call, since that what he gets paid for
    anyway.



    JAFO





    Randy Platt

    aka "PCGator"

    aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

    aka "The Other Randy, the one without nail fungus"



    Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!







    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
    Behalf Of Cecilia
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    I agree with Steve AND Randy.  If Dustin had tucked that ball the way he is
    supposed to and waited until after he crossed the goal line to relax/show
    off, we wouldn't be having this conversation.  We might be having one about
    the 15 yard penalty he might have gotten for celebrating, but his touchdown
    would not be in question.



    Cee

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    Agreed. And I STILL maintain his "showboating" is the whole reason we're
    arguing about this three days after the game. Hope he learns from this.



    Randy



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    It wasn't overturnable(?) as I said, but there is no doubt in my mind that
    if those two shots were indeed taken at the same time, that the ball came
    out of his hands before he had a chance to carry it over the line.

    I'm glad that we got the call. I don't think that you can extrapolate that
    if it had been reversed that we would have been in danger of losing.

    My orange and blue glasses have lenses as thick as anyone's, but there's no
    way that I can conclude that we didn't get away with one in that instance.

    --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote:



    Both of you are completely missing Jerry's point.  There was no camera on
    the goal line.  Therefore, the angle is suspect even with the "synched" shot
    of the ball apparently out of Doe's grasp as he crossed the goal line.

    No, the officials didn't have that technology available.  Nor does it prove
    anything.

    As it is, Doe was credited with a touchdown.  If that's bad, I'll volunteer
    to go run stadium steps with him. (yet another way to blow off steam along
    with bull dozing and blowing things up!)

    Let's give the kid a break here.</TABLE<BR<BR




    

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