Yes... and I agree with Ken.  I hope there is a way for the University to help 
him, but I think it will be difficult to justify letting him remain on the team.

Cee
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken Kirkley 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:17 AM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh


  I am reminded of the Lacrosse player at University of Virginia that killed 
his girlfriend after an on and off relationship.  I think Florida might have no 
other options due to the liability.  Although I would hope there is an avenue 
to get him appropriate treatment and maintain the stability that he has in the 
University community.  That would give him the best hope for long-term success.

  Wasn't Rainey the one who basically lived with the Pouncey's because he 
didn't have a home?





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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jerry Belloit
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:36 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh


  If he does not withdraw, the president of the university has no choice but to 
expel him.  The university is now on notice that he has a serious mental issue 
that could result in serious harm or death.

   

  Jerry

   

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:08 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

   

  It may be a popular phrase, but in the context of his actions last night I 
don't think he meant his batteries were dead. We can downplay this all we want 
but bottom line this is a serious issue.  

   

  I agree that this will probably be plead down or dropped completely, but that 
doesn't change the fact that he did it.  It also doesn't help the image of UF 
when, once again, we are in the ESPN ticker with negative news.

   

  We can no longer make fun of other schools transgressions as long as this 
stuff keeps happening.   Yes, we deal with it differently in most cases, but 
obviously these kids aren't getting the message.  Urban has always had a strong 
stance on violence against women, it will be interesting to see how he deals 
with Chris as he is one of his favorites.

   

  I am not advocating he be kicked off the team or out of school (although that 
may be school policy), rather he needs to have a multi-game suspension and 
enter some type of education/treatment program to ensure this doesn't happen 
again.

   

  Ken K

  MNGator

   

   


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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:54 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

  Ken,

   

  I looked at your link and was surprised it seems to be a popular phrase these 
days? I have a 17 year old daughter and I would do anything to protect her.

   

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:47 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

   

  Something tells me it isn't slang, Urban Dictionary definition below.  If I'm 
Meyer and I have a daughter in college, I know what I would do.  

   

  1. Time To Die 3 up, 8 down 

  buy time to die mugs, tshirts and magnets

  The Time when your clock runs out of battery/life 

  The other day I was playing video games and my clock was basically telling 
me, "It's Time to Die!"

   

  Ken K
  MNGator

   


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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:39 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

  Kids these days---it's all slang. Who know what that means? At least he 
didn't threaten to kill anyone. Time to die?? WTF?

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