Verizon has not blocked it in our area.  I have a friend who was grandfathered 
in on his unlimited data plan and he still tethers without paying the fee.

Jerry

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 29, 2011, at 3:39 PM, "Rob Alexander" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The tethering situation has changed recently, at least on AT&T and Verizon. 
Both carriers have offered a formal tethering service for a long time at about 
$20 a month, but if you sourced your tethering software from the outside, you 
could do it without paying. I did that for years with my Windows Mobile phones, 
Android has apps to do it, and you could do it on a jail broken iPhone. For a 
long time, few enough people did it for the companies to care.

But now that more and more people have started doing it, first AT&T, then 
Verizon started monitoring their networks for unauthorized tethering. If you do 
it after being warned on AT&T, they'll just add the $20 to your bill. Verizon 
just seems to block the tethering. We got our first warning from Verizon on my 
wife's WM phone a few weeks ago and it just kept us from tethering.

I'm sure hackers must be working on ways to fool the networks, but once the 
companies care enough to stop me, I figure that's the time to either pay up or 
stop using it.

If you're willing to pay for tethering, then everyone's phones work just fine. 
It's built-in to the iPhone, and I imagine either built-on or easily added to 
Android and WP7.

I'm not worried about the 4G thing right now. It'll be a couple of years before 
Verizon puts LTE where I live. By then, every phone will support it. I'm sure 
it's nice for those who have it, though.

Go Gators!

Rob

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 29, 2011, at 12:08 PM, "Jerry D. Belloit" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Scott, the new iPhone 4s has some major internal tweaks that allow the 3g speed 
on the new iPhone to function close to 4g speed.  It may seem like second best 
but functionally there are a lot more 3g networks out there.  Consequently, the 
iPhone will out-perform the androids on the 3g networks while the androids will 
out-perform (by a little) the iPhone 4s on a 4g network.

The biggest plus for the android phones is the ability to buy an app that 
allows the user to tether their phone to other devices such as a laptop or 
tablet.  Technically the iPhones have that same feature but the apps cannot be 
sold through the apple store.

Jerry

P.S.  I am still struggling with an old windows based phone.  I want to upgrade 
but I am reluctant to upgrade with Verizon without an unlimited plan.  I love 
the Sprint plan, but it just does not have as good of service in my area.  I am 
hoping that a lot of Verizon customers will switch to Sprint so that Verizon 
will be forced to recant and go back to unlimited data plans.  I realize that 
Verizon method of calculating usage is very generous and that most people would 
never use their 3 gig limit much less a 5 gig limit.  However, I want to be 
able to stream my DISH video content when I am out of town.  On a Verizon phone 
or iPad, that would limit me to about 3-4 football games a month.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:21 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Non-Gator related...

Must be that 4G network his Android can deliver that is just too fast for the 
mail servers.  I bet you don't have that problem with the iPhone 3g service.  
LOL!



________________________________
From: Rob Alexander <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Non-Gator related...
Dude, where do you get the wacky idea that iOS has only a 'select few' 
developers? It costs $99 / year to be in their program and that includes all 
the development tools. I'm pretty sure that doesn't shut out anyone with an 
interest in the platform. And that makes sense, when you think of it, since it 
took more than a select few developers to write the 425,000 apps in the app 
store. iOS developers are neither select nor few, but they do have to meet 
rigid quality and content requirements to get their apps accepted in the store. 
And, yeah, I agree with you about Apple being control freaks about the software 
they accept. They have a clear vision of what they want the platform to be, and 
they aren't flexible about it if you have a different vision (especially if 
your vision is that it would be cool to put out a Trojan horse that looks like 
a Netflix app).

I do agree with the article and you that one of the disadvantages of an open 
architecture is fragmentation. I experienced that with the Windows Mobile 
platform and it was very frustrating. You never knew for sure whether a 
particular app would work on a given model, and you were at the mercy of your 
handset maker and carrier about whether you were ever going to see an OS 
upgrade. With iOS, even the 2 1/2 year old iPhone 3GS just got the iOS 5 
upgrade that came out last week.

I disagree with the article, though, in it's implication that this is going to 
make people abandon the Android platform. You live with the problems of 
fragmentation. We live with the lack of customization that comes with a locked 
down system. It's all about trade-offs and different people will value 
different things. There's plenty of room in the market for lots of different 
approaches.

Rob

P.S. I like the Android feature on Leon's new phone that automatically sends 
four copies of every email, just in case any of them get lost on the way.  <LOL>



Sent from my iPad

On Oct 18, 2011, at 7:18 AM, "Randy Lyons" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Good article and accurate for the most part, however, she is describing the 
problems inherent in any system with “open architecture”. Yes, it opens the 
door for MANY more developers to get involved, but that can lead to a lack of 
organization. On one extreme you have Apple being the supreme “control freak” 
by locking everyone but a select few out and on the other end of the spectrum, 
you have the Android people running in circles. Meanwhile, Blackberry sits 
quietly in the corner grinding to a halt while it dies a slow death. What to 
do? I like to keep moving even if it’s in circles. :)

Randy

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> 
On Behalf Of Badrish
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:53 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [gatortalk] Non-Gator related...

...just for general knowledge: 
http://ct.cnet-ssa.cnet.com/clicks?t=1102771135-c43df5665d3e4530b5efe75dd805093f-bf&brand=CNET-SSA&s=5

I am neither an iPhone nor Android person...but a BB user (that too...company 
given!), so there is no hidden agenda here :-)

-BadMan
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