I'm sure everyone with Sprint 4G phones that are at the game are enjoying 4G. I had my Evo there last year for the game and was blown away by 4G speed. I can't wait for Chattanooga to get 4G. Randy From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Non-Gator related... The tethering situation has changed recently, at least on AT&T and Verizon. Both carriers have offered a formal tethering service for a long time at about $20 a month, but if you sourced your tethering software from the outside, you could do it without paying. I did that for years with my Windows Mobile phones, Android has apps to do it, and you could do it on a jail broken iPhone. For a long time, few enough people did it for the companies to care. But now that more and more people have started doing it, first AT&T, then Verizon started monitoring their networks for unauthorized tethering. If you do it after being warned on AT&T, they'll just add the $20 to your bill. Verizon just seems to block the tethering. We got our first warning from Verizon on my wife's WM phone a few weeks ago and it just kept us from tethering. I'm sure hackers must be working on ways to fool the networks, but once the companies care enough to stop me, I figure that's the time to either pay up or stop using it. If you're willing to pay for tethering, then everyone's phones work just fine. It's built-in to the iPhone, and I imagine either built-on or easily added to Android and WP7. I'm not worried about the 4G thing right now. It'll be a couple of years before Verizon puts LTE where I live. By then, every phone will support it. I'm sure it's nice for those who have it, though. Go Gators! Rob
Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2011, at 12:08 PM, "Jerry D. Belloit" <[email protected]> wrote: Scott, the new iPhone 4s has some major internal tweaks that allow the 3g speed on the new iPhone to function close to 4g speed. It may seem like second best but functionally there are a lot more 3g networks out there. Consequently, the iPhone will out-perform the androids on the 3g networks while the androids will out-perform (by a little) the iPhone 4s on a 4g network. The biggest plus for the android phones is the ability to buy an app that allows the user to tether their phone to other devices such as a laptop or tablet. Technically the iPhones have that same feature but the apps cannot be sold through the apple store. Jerry P.S. I am still struggling with an old windows based phone. I want to upgrade but I am reluctant to upgrade with Verizon without an unlimited plan. I love the Sprint plan, but it just does not have as good of service in my area. I am hoping that a lot of Verizon customers will switch to Sprint so that Verizon will be forced to recant and go back to unlimited data plans. I realize that Verizon method of calculating usage is very generous and that most people would never use their 3 gig limit much less a 5 gig limit. However, I want to be able to stream my DISH video content when I am out of town. On a Verizon phone or iPad, that would limit me to about 3-4 football games a month. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Non-Gator related... Must be that 4G network his Android can deliver that is just too fast for the mail servers. I bet you don't have that problem with the iPhone 3g service. LOL! _____ From: Rob Alexander <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Non-Gator related... Dude, where do you get the wacky idea that iOS has only a 'select few' developers? It costs $99 / year to be in their program and that includes all the development tools. I'm pretty sure that doesn't shut out anyone with an interest in the platform. And that makes sense, when you think of it, since it took more than a select few developers to write the 425,000 apps in the app store. iOS developers are neither select nor few, but they do have to meet rigid quality and content requirements to get their apps accepted in the store. And, yeah, I agree with you about Apple being control freaks about the software they accept. They have a clear vision of what they want the platform to be, and they aren't flexible about it if you have a different vision (especially if your vision is that it would be cool to put out a Trojan horse that looks like a Netflix app). I do agree with the article and you that one of the disadvantages of an open architecture is fragmentation. I experienced that with the Windows Mobile platform and it was very frustrating. You never knew for sure whether a particular app would work on a given model, and you were at the mercy of your handset maker and carrier about whether you were ever going to see an OS upgrade. With iOS, even the 2 1/2 year old iPhone 3GS just got the iOS 5 upgrade that came out last week. I disagree with the article, though, in it's implication that this is going to make people abandon the Android platform. You live with the problems of fragmentation. We live with the lack of customization that comes with a locked down system. It's all about trade-offs and different people will value different things. There's plenty of room in the market for lots of different approaches. Rob P.S. I like the Android feature on Leon's new phone that automatically sends four copies of every email, just in case any of them get lost on the way. <LOL> Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2011, at 7:18 AM, "Randy Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote: Good article and accurate for the most part, however, she is describing the problems inherent in any system with "open architecture". Yes, it opens the door for MANY more developers to get involved, but that can lead to a lack of organization. On one extreme you have Apple being the supreme "control freak" by locking everyone but a select few out and on the other end of the spectrum, you have the Android people running in circles. Meanwhile, Blackberry sits quietly in the corner grinding to a halt while it dies a slow death. What to do? I like to keep moving even if it's in circles. J Randy From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Badrish Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [gatortalk] Non-Gator related... ...just for general knowledge: http://ct.cnet-ssa.cnet.com/clicks?t=1102771135-c43df5665d3e4530b5efe75dd805 093f-bf <http://ct.cnet-ssa.cnet.com/clicks?t=1102771135-c43df5665d3e4530b5efe75dd80 5093f-bf&brand=CNET-SSA&s=5> &brand=CNET-SSA&s=5 I am neither an iPhone nor Android person...but a BB user (that too...company given!), so there is no hidden agenda here :-) -BadMan -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
