I only lived in three dorm rooms during my short time in the dorms-one semester in each of two at Emory and a few weeks in Murphy C at Florida. In two out of three, I would prefer the hotel room. In a hotel room, especially like the one in question, you get your own bathroom and the units were better equipped than the dorms. In addition, you had maid service. My first dorm as a freshman, the school was overloaded and I and three others got to occupy an old dorm. Each of us had our own private room and sharing the bathroom with three others was not bad.
I understand why Zeb might have preferred dorm life, but for me, after I transferred to Florida, I worked full time to pay for my education and I simply did not have the time or energy to put up with dorm life, especially when I had to punch the clock at 6:00 AM. What little sleep I got was precious. I did not need loud music, loud people, or moaning men and women in the room next door. Jerry From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Manuel Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] GatorNews From The Gainesville SUN For 2/17, AM Edition It all depends on what other people are hanging around the lobby or surrounding areas. It's not uncommon to see "ladies of the evening" using such areas as their office. Just sayin.... Stephen Manuel From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:38 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] GatorNews From The Gainesville SUN For 2/17, AM Edition I also question whether it is even a benefit. I would much rather live on campus in a dorm where my friends, members of the opposite sex, and parties are located. Most have common rooms with kitchens where one can cook, and relax with friends. Being stuck in a hotel room for a year of college seems like a punishment to me. -Zeb On Feb 18, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Jerry D. Belloit wrote: I find the NCAA's position here a little strange. I stayed for two months at a local Holiday Inn for $500 per month per room. (Daily rate not much higher than what was charged to the students.) The rate was a special rate given to University employees. It is not uncommon for hotels to negotiate lower rates for extended stays, especially when the hotel expects to get future business from the transaction. Apparently this hotel was charging $450 per month. That does not seem unreasonably low. I am surprised that this particular count was not challenged. In addition, I suspect that the hotel got some additional business by having some popular athletes living there. Jerry From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:18 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] GatorNews From The Gainesville SUN For 2/17, AM Edition I think there are several specific cases and that the journalist who wrote the story has mixed the numbers from different cases together, so they don't make sense. That said, I think it's the $14.95 and the $57 numbers that matter. As far as I can tell, it seems the article is saying the student athletes actually did pay $14.95 per night and the NCAA is saying that no regular person could possibly have stayed there at that rate. The NCAA is saying that $57 per night is the cheapest rate that they would believe was not a special deal for the student athletes. While I have no idea what hotel we're talking about or what they charge, or how true any of this is, the basic concept of the allegation seems reasonable to me. If you had never, ever charged any other non-athlete customer less than $57 per night, but you regularly let athletes stay for $14.95 per night, that would sure look like you were giving an improper benefit. Rob Sent from my iPad On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:29 PM, John Vega <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On Feb 17, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Shane Ford wrote: The bulk of improper benefits come from 12 athletes staying at the Whitney Hotel at $450 each for a two-bedroom suite. The NCAA found the hotel a few miles off campus charged a rate of $14.95 per athlete for two-bedroom suites. The NCAA said the rate should've been more than $57 per night for each athlete. One football player who spent more than year at the hotel, the NCAA said, received an extra benefit worth $19,280. The NCAA said the school received $47,000 worth of improper benefits from the rate reduction. Color me confused. Is the NCAA saying that the Whitney rate was too low; too high, or that student-athletes shouldn't be allowed to stay in hotels? I'd be stunned to find a hotel that offered a rate of $14.95 per person for a two-bedroom suite. Not even on Priceline. If the rate should have been $57, the University got overcharged. How is that a benefit to the players (unless the football players happen to own the hotel)? -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<http://www.gatornet.us> -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<http://www.gatornet.us> -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<http://www.gatornet.us> -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<http://www.gatornet.us> -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<http://www.gatornet.us> -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
