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>________________________________ > From: mail.bobparks.com <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:36 PM >Subject: Re: [gatortalk] From the Southern Poverty Law Center News > > > >I think the rule is that no public building can be named for a living person. >After the scandals of the late 60s when so many city officials went to jail. >He only name I remember was Dallas Thomas. There were several public buildings >and parks whose names had to be changes after the convictions. > >Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI >Real Estate Broker >Bob Parks, LLC >1517 Hunt Club Blvd >Gallatin TN 37066 >615-972-4239 >615-826-4040 >Sent from my iPhone > >On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Stephen Manuel" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >I am not a Civil War historian, I was going on what was reported by the local >TV news… >> >>But yes, Robert E. Lee High School was specifically mentioned as one of the >>schools whose name is up for debate. >> >>Andrew Jackson was mentioned as well, specifically the “Stonewall” part, but >>Randy pointed out that this was wrong. >> >>I could be mistaken, but I think Duval County now has a rule that any new >>school that’s built can’t be named after a person, the thought being that >>someone will be offended regardless of who the school is named after.. >> >>It’s not a big deal to me what they name the schools or that they change the >>name of the schools. >> >>Interestingly, the NB Forest name change is reportedly going to cost >>approximately $600,000 most of which around $400,000 is coming from the >>private sector. >> >> >> >>Stephen Manuel >>12212 Reedpond Drive East >>Jacksonville, FL 32223 >>Cell Phone: 904-607-4805 >> >>From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>Of Jerry D. Belloit >>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:09 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] From the Southern Poverty Law Center News >> >>I hope you don’t mean Robert E Lee. >> >>I was really surprised to learn about General Forrest’s background. I took >>Driver’s Ed there when I was 14. I don’t remember anyone ever mentioning >>anything other than he was a Confederate general. >>Jerry >> >>P.S. I was trying to figure out who you meant and I ran across this: >>http://www.examiner.com/article/back-to-school-who-they-are-named-after >> >>It's back to school time in Jacksonville, so sharpen your number 2 pencil, >>let's learn who these schools are named after. I'll continue these this week: >>Douglas Anderson, a highly respected African-American businessman. In 1948, >>led an effort to build the school where it still stands on the southside. >>Anderson is possibly best known for his successful to provide free >>transportation to African-American pupils in the county. >>William M. Raines High; Named in honor of William M. Raines, principal of >>Matthew Gilbert Middle School. >>A. Philip Randolph Academies; A. P. Randolph was an African-American labor >>movement and civil rights leader. Randolph played an important role in >>organizing the 1963 March on Washington at which Martin Luther King, Jr. made >>his "I Have A Dream" speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. >>Andrew Robinson Elementary-Andrew Robinson was the first principal of Raines >>High School from 1965 - 1969. >>Stanton- named after Edwin Stanton, President Lincoln’s Secretary of War. He >>was an advocate of free formal education for Negro boys and girls. Stanton >>was the first school for black children in the State of Florida. >>Fletcher – named after Jacksonville resident Duncan U. Fletcher, who was the >>longest serving U.S. senator in Florida history. >>Robert E. Lee – after the noted Civil War general >>Andrew Jackson – named after the 7th US President, the same man for which the >>city is named. >>Samuel Wolfson, - prominent businessman and civic leader who died in 1963. >>Terry Parker - named after local businessman who with his family deeded >>thirty acres to build a school in Arlington. >>Paxon – The Paxon family were the owners of the land in the area where Paxon >>School for Advanced Studies stands. It was originally given to the government >>to use for landing planes, and after WWII was given to the city for a school. >>Ribault – 16th century French explorer who “found” the first coast at Fort >>Caroline, and died at the hands of the Spanish in St. Augustine. >>Ed White – Edward Higgins White, an astronaut, was the first American to walk >>in space. He was tragically killed while training for the first Apollo >>mission in 1967. At least seven schools around the country that were built in >>the late 1960s were named after White. >>Allen B. Nease - conservationist in the mid-19th century, known as "Johnny >>Pine-nut" for the number of pines he planted in St. Johns County and >>throughout north Florida. >>Nathan B. Forrest - Perhaps the most controversial name of a Jacksonville >>school in recent years, Forrest was a Civil War Lt. General and later opposed >>reconstruction by leading the newly formed Ku Klux Klan. >> >>From: Stephen Manuel <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: GatorTalk <[email protected]> >>Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM >>To: GatorTalk <[email protected]> >>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] From the Southern Poverty Law Center News >> >>I don’t mean to be political but they’re 3 other schools in Jacksonville that >>will probably change their names in the near future. >> >>The 3 are: >> >>Robert E. Lee High School >>J.E.B Stuart Middle School >>Andrew “Stonewall” Jackson High School >> >>All are named, as you probably know, after Confederate Military Figures. >> >>Stephen Manuel >> >>From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>Of Oliver Barry >>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:05 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [gatortalk] From the Southern Poverty Law Center News >> >>Florida School Named After Klan Leader to Change Name >>By Mark Potok on December 18, 2013 - 10:04 am >>Forty-three years after it was integrated by court order, Nathan Bedford >>Forrest High School in Jacksonville, Fla., will drop the name of the >>Confederate general who ran an infamous antebellum slaveyard, presided over >>the massacre of surrendering black Yankee troops, and was the first national >>leader of the Ku Klux Klan. >>It was a long time coming. >>Initial efforts to change the name of the school, whose student body is now >>61% black, were made in the early 1990s but failed. A second attempt, led by >>local sociology professor Lance Stoll and a few of his students, also failed >>in 2007, even though Stoll surveyed the local community and jumped through a >>series of hoops imposed by the school board. The board defied its own >>policies then, with members voting 5-2 along racial lines to keep the name of >>the infamous Confederate. >>But this Monday, culminating the largest campaign yet, the board, all of >>whose members but one are new since 2007, voted unanimously to select a new >>name before August 2014. Schools Superintendent Nikolai Vitti, who supported >>the change from the beginning, said it could end a “cloud of divisiveness” >>and would now “allow us to focus on what matters most — student achievement.” >>“We recognize that we cannot and are not seeking to erase history,” Duval >>County School Board member Constance Hall said. “For too long and too many, >>this name has represented the opposite of unity, respect and equality — all >>that we expect in Duval schools. Our board has [been] and is guided by a set >>of core values that promote equal opportunity, honors differences, and values >>diversity.” >>Stoll said he was glad for the change but still amazed at the stiff defense >>of the name put up by many locals. “Their argument was so shallow and so >>ridiculous,” he told Hatewatch. “You can’t defend Nathan Bedford Forrest. He >>was a miserable, despicable human being. And the Confederacy was a horrible >>place. Why do we allow our schools to be named after treasonous people? It’s >>just amazing.” >>It wasn’t easy. In addition to Stoll, a key player this time was Otomayo >>Richmond, who started a national petition on the Change.org website that >>eventually garnered some 160,000 signatures. The local NAACP, the Southern >>Christian Leadership Conference, the local Democratic Party, several unions >>and others worked hard to press the campaign forward, Stoll said. “In 2007, >>it was me and two or three students,” he said. “This time, we had a broad >>coalition and the social media. I think the people running Jacksonville today >>don’t want to be a redneck town any more.” >>In recent surveys, 94% of the school’s alumni opposed changing the name. But >>64% of students supported the change, as did Vitti and, ultimately, all >>members of the multiracial board. By a small margin, the local community also >>backed a change. >>Still, it was an uphill battle that may have turned on a single moment about >>six weeks ago. “Every board member received a letter from the grand wizard of >>the Ku Klux Klan of Missouri,” Stoll said. “Even the most conservative people >>on the school board said they were horrified. That was the best thing that >>happened.” >>8 Comments >> >> >>Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI >>Bob Parks Realty, LLC >>REO Department >>1517 Hunt Club Blvd >>Gallatin TN 37066 >>Phone: 615-826-4040 >>Mobile: 615-972-4239 >>[email protected] >> >>-- >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us/ >>--- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"GatorTalk" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to [email protected]. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>-- >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us/ >>--- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"GatorTalk" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to [email protected]. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>-- >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us/ >>--- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"GatorTalk" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to [email protected]. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us/ >>--- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"GatorTalk" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to [email protected]. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> -- >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"GatorTalk" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >email to [email protected]. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk" group. 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