You should listen to Gators Breakdown Podcast #115.  Florida interested in Chip 
Kelly?  Very interesting breakdown looking at numbers for offensive production 
and recruiting under Chip Kelly.  


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> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:34 AM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> First choice is debatable. I suppose one thing in Kelly's favor is the fact 
> that the UAA didn't have to wait for the current season to end to talk to 
> him. With a number of potential early entry recruits (Matt Corral, et. al.) 
> in the balance I'm sure that had to factor.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 11:25:17 AM EST, Woody <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I doubt Darren Heitner would tweet what he did if there wasnt some truth to 
> it. 
> 
> That being said.. he also said Taggart was UF's #1 choice.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:18 AM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have heard directly from some folks that have had very good early info in 
> the past. They are careful to say that it is *close* to being a done deal, 
> but they also say that they strongly expect it to happen very shortly.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 11:13:04 AM EST, 'Scott Lucas' via GatorTalk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Based on the reading of tea leaves?  LOL.  Why are you so confident?
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 11:00:48 AM EST, 'Steve McKibben' via 
> GatorTalk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Woody and Oliver - don't go putting any money on your hunches...
> 
> I think you will see an announcement that CK will be/has been hired BEFORE 
> this weekend - and no, I won't put any money on that either, because "stuff 
> happens, but I feel strongly this is all but a done deal.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 10:33:11 AM EST, Woody <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The other possibility is that there is vetting going on, and Kelly is 
> involved, but Kelly is being asked about Frost. Remember, he worked for Kelly 
> at Oregon.
> 
> I think Stricklin is very close to pulling the trigger on his guy. He wants 
> everything in place to make the announcement (official) on 12/3.
> 
> Woody
> 
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is nothing but rumor. No official reports. No announcements.
> 
> We really don’t know for sure if Kelly was “vetted.”
> 
> I would suspect someone called his agent and asked him if there was any 
> interest.
> 
> Someone has likely called Scott Frost’s agent, Dan Mullen’s agent, Justin 
> Fuente’s agent, etc.
> 
> But, no coach has been contacted.
> 
> Steve Spurrier said the new coach is currently with his team.
> 
> That would eliminate Chip Kelly.
> 
> Tim Tebow, Bob Stoops, Jon Gruden, Steve Spurrier are also eliminated.  Lane 
> Kiffin is eliminated by common sense.
> 
>  
> 
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Woody Bass
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:44 AM
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over 
> Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>  
> 
> Well I think the report he was being vetted is likely more accurate than any 
> negotiating going on right now. 
> 
>  
> 
> Woody
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Rob Alexander <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What you and Steve said ring true. We wouldn’t invest in the negotiations 
> without getting the league approval first. My guess is that we would never 
> know if the SEC didn’t approve it (beyond rumors) because we wouldn’t 
> announce it; we would just hire someone else. 
> 
>  
> 
> I’m not speaking to whether we actually are going for Kelly... that’s still 
> just rumor... but if we do, then we will have already cleared it with the SEC 
> beforehand. The more I have read about the Oregon situation, the less it 
> bothers me about him personally. I will assume they are doing their due 
> diligence and if they hire him, that they are satisfied he will run a clean 
> program. 
> 
>  
> 
> I’d be happy with the hire. I think Frost carries a higher upside for a 
> lifetime legacy coach, though greater risk of failure, but Kelly and Frost 
> are both the kind of exciting hire we need right now... especially if we want 
> to save this recruiting class. 
> 
>  
> 
> Rob
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 8:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> The SEC office has already cleared Florida to pursue Kelly.  This was 
> completed last Friday.
> 
>  
> 
> I’m pretty sure that is where the first Kelly to Florida leaks started, 
> although I admittedly have no inside information to support that statement.
> 
>  
> 
> Ken Kirkley
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:58 PM -0500, "Woody" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Won't happen. Not unless they have a stronger argument... which I doubt would 
> be the case. What could they really tell them that UF couldnt?
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Charles Simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on 
> Kelly but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A&M yes.
> Charlie
> 
> On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as the 
> old Southwest conference. 
> 
> There’s no way we’re going there again. 
> 
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> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC can 
> stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
> 
> What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have a 
> show-cause it has to go through Sankey
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long 
> since expired.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. 
> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure 
> he will take that chance.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
> record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
> show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to 
> spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the 
> NFL.
> 
>  
> 
> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. 
> JMO of course.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
> show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had 
> a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros 
> and didn’t appeal the ruling. 
> 
>  
> 
> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations 
> at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
> 
>  
> 
> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, 
> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and 
> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
> 
>  
> 
> Ken
> 
>  
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Woody
> 
> 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
> To: Gatortalk <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over 
> Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
> 
>  
> 
> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
> Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
> take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
> 
>  
> 
> Woody
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 
> 
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Woody Bass <[email protected]>
> Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there 
> are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
> Reply-To: gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com
> 
> 
> https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ programs-may-be-salivating- 
> over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- obstacles-to-his-return/
> 
> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
> return
> ·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017
> 
> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
> 
> Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working 
> in an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best 
> coach not to be on a sideline.
> 
> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch 
> Jones at Tennessee.
> 
> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
> baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball 
> revealed last week.
> 
> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he 
> had left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to 
> monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 
> 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to the 
> NFL.
> 
> Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in 
> exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much.
> 
> That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was 
> accused of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to 
> influence players to sign with the shoe giant.
> 
> While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for 
> decades, the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into 
> football. The Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples 
> that 7-on-7 is becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know, 
> backroom deals being struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high school 
> coach further and further out of the loop.
> 
> "I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access and 
> influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade. "The 
> service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I made a 
> mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong." 
> 
> The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of God 
> into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly slowed 
> considerably for the moment.
> 
> The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how 
> scared college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At 
> worst, guys like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems 
> finding work as a new normal settles over compliance departments.
> 
> One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a 
> coach with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no matter 
> what you hired him for, he may have restrictions."
> 
> Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a 
> sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal.
> 
> The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school hires a 
> coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the accused to his 
> new place of work.
> 
> How that looks for a sitting coach is a bit murkier. Indiana fired basketball 
> coach Kelvin Sampson after he was found to have made improper calls to 
> recruits for a second time. The NCAA rules have since been changed so that 
> sort of conduct wouldn't be a violation today.
> 
> Sampson currently coaches at Houston.
> 
> Florida Atlantic officials are looking into how such a show-cause penalty 
> might affect defensive coordinator Chris Kiffin's ability to do his job. Lane 
> KIffin's brother has been accused by both Ole Miss and the NCAA of violations 
> during his time with Rebels.
> 
> One source said Chris Kiffin has been "forthcoming" when questioned by FAU 
> officials.
> 
> Kelly would likely have to face similar questions if and when he got back 
> into college coaching.
> 
> In four NFL seasons with two teams, Kelly went 28-35. While a return to the 
> pros doesn't seem imminent, his college coaching rep remains burnished. 
> 
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