Good point about everyone looking for the next Saban, the next Urban
Meyer, the next Kirby Smart (gag). The next guy who'll be The Chosen
One.
Thing is, there obviously are very few of them. And remember how many
coaches in all professional sports do great with one team and then not
great with other teams. Same guy, different results.
Ron Zook used to say it's not the Xs and Os, it's the Jesses and Joes.
Older I get, more I think he's right. And not just physical gifts.
Mental, too. Understanding situations, able to make correct
adjustments, able to know your role and do it. I think Saban one time
said he'd tell his players each of you have YOUR role. Do it. Don't
think about other players. Know YOUR job on each play.
John
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Sent: Thursday December 25 2025 3:22:52PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Hi Gators!
Good points, Stephen! Also, everybody’s looking for another Nick
Sabin. Kiffin is no Sabin. He’ll easily make LSU look better than
Brian Kelly did. But, Kiffin has had some unexplainable losses, too.
Like last year’s UF game. He made Napier look good in that game when
he was just being a bad coach, at least in that game. BTW, I miss the
big blue tent!
Oliver Barry CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Crye-Leike, REALTORS 964
Main Street Nashville, TN 37206 Office: 615-650-7447 Mobile:
615-972-4239 [email protected]
On Dec 25, 2025, at 2:11 PM, 'Stephen Manuel' via GatorTalk wrote:
What people have to realize is in this new age of college
football, hiring a big name coach from another school is nearly
impossible, every school has money now, look at Indiana and
Vanderbilt, both have excellent coaches, in years past both would have
been courted by UF, Auburn, Penn State, etc., but schools signed them
to lucrative new contracts that made them top 10 highest paid coaches
in football.
LSU hired Kiffen, they paid over 50 million to get rid of the old
coach, they are paying Kiffen over 70 million, they are hiring
coordinators at 2 to 2.5 million each, not counting NIL and Recruiting
budgets, LSU is look at easily a 150 million dollar decision, not many
schools are willing to gamble that kind of money on a new coach.
In years past hiring coordinators from top schools has proven to be
the best choice, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame
all hired their current coaches who had no prior head coaching
experience. In fact the last 3 coaches at Oklahoma were top
coordinators with no prior head coaching experience.
Bottomline, unless you prepared to spend the kind of money LSU is
spending, hiring a top coordinator or G5 coach is your best option, it
will be interesting to see who Michigan hires this late in the game.
Stephen Manuel
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FROM: 'Oliver Barry' via GatorTalk
SENT: Thursday, December 25, 2025 10:02 AM
TO: [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: [gatortalk] Hi Gators! When Napier was fired there
were a couple of writers who talked about potential coaches. Jon
Sumrall had the best qualifications of the available coaches. He picks
players according to how they fit into his game plan. He’s involved
in his players’ lives outside of football. He’s ready to go win
from the start. He doesn’t have any national championships, but
Ryan Day, Dabo Swinney, and (God forbid) Kirby Smart weren’t
available. If Tulane’s quarterback hadn’t left them they would
have come a lot closer to beating us last year in the Gasparilla Bowl!
He’s also been successful getting players out of the portal. I
can’t count how many people told me how Florida probably “dodged a
bullet” losing Kiffin. Wee would have kept him just long enough to
get into the CFP when he decided Alabama or the NFL would be his next
destination. Sumrall is going to take us back in to a much better
place if we give him a chance. Oliver Barry CRS, GRI Real Estate
Broker Crye-Leike, REALTORS 964 Main Street Nashville, TN 37206
Office: 615-650-7447 Mobile: 615-972-4239 [email protected]
On Dec 25, 2025, at 11:18 AM, Shane Ford wrote:
I’m very skeptical! 🧐 I’m willing to give anyone that
will take our job a chance. I’ll give him 2-3 years before I make up
my mind for good. BUT! I’m not looking for this hire to work out. I
have a lot of reservations. I did like what he said at his opening
press conference, but as we learned with the last guy those are just
words. I’m really worried about what we’re going to see on the
field. I do like his OC and OL coach hirings. Am nervous about DC
hire. I never liked UK’s defense personally. I don’t like the bend
but don’t break philosophy of defense. Sure it can work, but I would
rather attack your offense and try to take away what you do best and
make you uncomfortable. I’m really excited about the OC’s
background and I hope they allow him to run more of an air raid open
style offense. I’m super ex about brining Trautwein back home! I’m
very nervous about the amount of Tulane hires he mad on his staff. I
am hopeful that a lot of them came over taking position demotions.
With the last coach, they all came over doing their same jobs which we
found out quickly that staff was unprepared and not ready for SEC
play. Sorry for the long winded response, but I will cheer hard for
whoever is our HBC but I’m not as excited about this hire as I would
have been for a bigger name proven coach, but I guess we’re never
going to hire one of those.
GO GATORS!!!!!
SHANE
Sent from Shane’s iPhone Go Gators!
On Dec 24, 2025, at 2:00 PM, Stompin' Gator wrote:
How are we feeling about the hire? I admit I was skeptical at
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