A couple of other notes, on the GM job, I look at the position as a glorified 
Recruiting Coordinator. IMO, there is no way in the world a college GM will 
have overall authority on talent acquisition.

At UF they are paying Jon Sumrall 7.5 million per year, in what world would you 
hire a GM making a fraction of that and give him authority over talent 
acquisition. The College GM will manage the NIL money, scout HS and Portal 
Talent, organize the recruiting weekends, etc...when it comes down to offering 
a scholarship or paying someone to remain on the team, the head coach will have 
the final say. I can't imagine a college head coach at any school operating 
under a system where he would not have the ultimate authority over recruiting 
and the portal. The new UF GM wasn't in the group that visited Jaden Baugh; it 
was Sumrall and two other assistants.

On Kiffin, if his name wasn't Kiffin he would likely be out of college 
football. Remember he was fired from 2 previous head coaching jobs, plus he ran 
out on a third head coaching job in the middle of the night.  He's gotten 
chances to be a head coach at multiple big-time programs and made a mess out of 
a couple.  He left Ole Miss after their most successful season in decades; he's 
never been known as a great recruiter. If he had come to UF, I would be happy 
to have him, but I'm not disappointed he didn't take the UF job.

Just imagine if Kiffin came to UF, got us in the playoffs and left to take the 
Alabama Job or a top NFL job right before the first playoff game; Gator Fans 
would be furious, you can't blame Ole Miss fans for hating him.

Stephen Manuel


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Great points Stephen. Stricklin would've been hung out to dry of he hired a 
coordinator off a top tier team, yet all the long term successful teams did 
just that.

I'm this new age of mini pro football masquerading as college football, the GM 
is as important as the head coach. Get a head coach that can manage game day 
and a GM that can get the Jimmies and Joes in the locker room and you have a 
chance at success.

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From: 'Oliver Barry' via GatorTalk <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2025 3:22:36 PM
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Good points, Stephen!
Also, everybody’s looking for another Nick Sabin. Kiffin is no Sabin. He’ll 
easily make LSU look better than Brian Kelly did. But, Kiffin has had some 
unexplainable losses, too. Like last year’s UF game. He made Napier look good 
in that game when he was just being a bad coach, at least in that game.
BTW, I miss the big blue tent!

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
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Nashville, TN 37206
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On Dec 25, 2025, at 2:11 PM, 'Stephen Manuel' via GatorTalk 
<[email protected]> wrote:


What people have to realize is in this new age of college football, hiring a 
big name coach from another school is nearly impossible, every school has money 
now, look at Indiana and Vanderbilt, both have excellent coaches, in years past 
both would have been courted by UF, Auburn, Penn State, etc., but schools 
signed them to lucrative new contracts that made them top 10 highest paid 
coaches in football.

LSU hired Kiffen, they paid over 50 million to get rid of the old coach, they 
are paying Kiffen over 70 million, they are hiring coordinators at 2 to 2.5 
million each, not counting NIL and Recruiting  budgets, LSU is look at easily a 
150 million dollar decision, not many schools are willing to gamble that kind 
of money on a new coach.

In years past hiring coordinators from top schools has proven to be the best 
choice, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame all hired their 
current coaches who had no prior head coaching experience. In fact the last 3 
coaches at Oklahoma were top coordinators with no prior head coaching 
experience.

Bottomline, unless you prepared to spend the kind of money LSU is spending, 
hiring a top coordinator or G5 coach is your best option, it will be 
interesting to see who Michigan hires this late in the game.

Stephen Manuel




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When Napier was fired there were a couple of writers who talked about potential 
coaches.
Jon Sumrall had the best qualifications of the available coaches. He picks 
players according to how they fit into his game plan. He’s involved in his 
players’ lives outside of football. He’s ready to go win from the start.
He doesn’t have any national championships, but Ryan Day, Dabo Swinney, and 
(God forbid) Kirby Smart weren’t available.
If Tulane’s quarterback hadn’t left them they would have come a lot closer to 
beating us last year in the Gasparilla Bowl!
He’s also been successful getting players out of the portal.
I can’t count how many people told me how Florida probably “dodged a bullet” 
losing Kiffin. Wee would have kept him just long enough to get into the CFP 
when he decided Alabama or the NFL would be his next destination.
Sumrall is going to take us back in to a much better place if we give him a 
chance.
Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
Real Estate Broker
Crye-Leike, REALTORS
964 Main Street
Nashville, TN 37206
Office: 615-650-7447
Mobile: 615-972-4239
[email protected]

On Dec 25, 2025, at 11:18 AM, Shane Ford <[email protected]> wrote:


I’m very skeptical! 🧐 I’m willing to give anyone that will take our job a 
chance. I’ll give him 2-3 years before I make up my mind for good. BUT! I’m not 
looking for this hire to work out. I have a lot of reservations. I did like 
what he said at his opening press conference, but as we learned with the last 
guy those are just words. I’m really worried about what we’re going to see on 
the field. I do like his OC and OL coach hirings. Am nervous about DC hire. I 
never liked UK’s defense personally. I don’t like the bend but don’t break 
philosophy of defense. Sure it can work, but I would rather attack your offense 
and try to take away what you do best and make you uncomfortable. I’m really 
excited about the OC’s background and I hope they allow him to run more of an 
air raid open style offense. I’m super ex about brining Trautwein back home! 
I’m very nervous about the amount of Tulane hires he mad on his staff. I am 
hopeful that a lot of them came over taking position demotions. With the last 
coach, they all came over doing their same jobs which we found out quickly that 
staff was unprepared and not ready for SEC play. Sorry for the long winded 
response, but I will cheer hard for whoever is our HBC but I’m not as excited 
about this hire as I would have been for a bigger name proven coach, but I 
guess we’re never going to hire one of those.

GO GATORS!!!!!

SHANE

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Go Gators!

On Dec 24, 2025, at 2:00 PM, Stompin' Gator <[email protected]> wrote:

How are we feeling about the hire? I admit I was skeptical at first, but I am 
starting to get excited!

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