Actually, I was talking about going one step further.

Block ALL access to ALL Internet sites, and then 
create a list of allowed websites (your company's
webpage, the page where employees monitor their
benefits, the pages of vendors/customers that may
be needed, etc).

If a host isn't on the list, NO access of ANY type
is allowed.  That way, no matter how many times
they reinstall the software, they still won't get
through (unless a host that is running an IM server
somehow gets put on your "allowed" list).

Mike Burden
Lynk Systems
http://www.lynk.com
(616)532-4985
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reasoner, Bob (PHES) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:27 AM
> To: Mike Burden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [gb-users] IM Madness
> 
> 
> I had used your list of filters (provided a few months back) 
> to go to a
> default close all outbound then accepting port 80, 443, 25 etc.
> 
> That worked for about two weeks, then some of my industrious 
> users decided
> to reinstall their IM programs and they seem to then do a 
> port scan and go
> out on the SSL ports or the FTP ports.
> 
> If the user reads my email and doesn't bother to reinstall 
> all is well,
> but
> unfortunately, most users read the first sentence and see that I'm
> suggesting they do away with their toy and delete it.
> 
> I know some of the SurfControl type programs can block this based on
> filters.  I was hoping that since CyberNOT is owned by 
> SurfControl that
> they
> would incorporate these sites into their list, but will take 
> whatever I
> can
> get.
> 
> Thanks for you quick response!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Burden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [gb-users] IM Madness
> 
> 
> Would it be reasonable to go to a "default closed"
> configuration for your network, where access to
> everything is blocked, and there is a list of
> exceptions?  This type of setup will block IM,
> Napster and it's clones, etc.
> 
> I'm with you about technical solutions to social
> problems.
> 
> Mike Burden
> Lynk Systems
> http://www.lynk.com
> (616)532-4985
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Reasoner, Bob (PHES) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:10 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [gb-users] IM Madness
> >
> >
> > Has anyone out there had any real success in Blocking access
> > to external
> > Instant Messenger programs?
> >
> > I have written outbound filters to block all but the standard
> > ports, and
> > that seemed to work temporarily, but of course these programs
> > seem to do a
> > port scan and connect again.
> >
> > I have the CyberNOT option on my GB-Flash if there is anyway to
> > incorporate
> > it in that.  Otherwise does anyone know of a list of IP
> > addresses that can
> > be blocked for MSN, AIM, and Yahoo IM?
> >
> > I realize that this should be a policy issue and that
> > Manager's should be
> > held accountable for the actions of their employees, but
> > unfortunately our
> > organization doesn't seem to want to make an issue of it 
> and thinks I
> > should
> > find a technical solution.
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance anyone can provide!
> >
> > Bob Reasoner
> > Harris County Public Health & Environmental Services
> >
> 
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