Bob,

Try installing a web cache of some sort (e.g. Squid) on a machine behind
your GB, and then only allow Web/FTP traffic from that machine ONLY.  You
might have a little more control over the content.

Regards

Simon Delicata.



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I had used your list of filters (provided a few months back) to go to a
default close all outbound then accepting port 80, 443, 25 etc.

That worked for about two weeks, then some of my industrious users decided
to reinstall their IM programs and they seem to then do a port scan and go
out on the SSL ports or the FTP ports.

If the user reads my email and doesn't bother to reinstall all is well, but
unfortunately, most users read the first sentence and see that I'm
suggesting they do away with their toy and delete it.

I know some of the SurfControl type programs can block this based on
filters.  I was hoping that since CyberNOT is owned by SurfControl that
they
would incorporate these sites into their list, but will take whatever I can
get.

Thanks for you quick response!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Burden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [gb-users] IM Madness


Would it be reasonable to go to a "default closed"
configuration for your network, where access to
everything is blocked, and there is a list of
exceptions?  This type of setup will block IM,
Napster and it's clones, etc.

I'm with you about technical solutions to social
problems.

Mike Burden
Lynk Systems
http://www.lynk.com
(616)532-4985
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reasoner, Bob (PHES) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gb-users] IM Madness
>
>
> Has anyone out there had any real success in Blocking access
> to external
> Instant Messenger programs?
>
> I have written outbound filters to block all but the standard
> ports, and
> that seemed to work temporarily, but of course these programs
> seem to do a
> port scan and connect again.
>
> I have the CyberNOT option on my GB-Flash if there is anyway to
> incorporate
> it in that.  Otherwise does anyone know of a list of IP
> addresses that can
> be blocked for MSN, AIM, and Yahoo IM?
>
> I realize that this should be a policy issue and that
> Manager's should be
> held accountable for the actions of their employees, but
> unfortunately our
> organization doesn't seem to want to make an issue of it and thinks I
> should
> find a technical solution.
>
> Thanks for any assistance anyone can provide!
>
> Bob Reasoner
> Harris County Public Health & Environmental Services
>

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