Hi mirabilos, On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 01:40:23AM GMT, mirabilos wrote: > Not too sure what the root context of this thread is, but in BSD land
The root context is that - _Lengthof was added to C2y in the Minnesota meeting. It was proposed by me, although they pushed me to rename the operator to _Lengthof, which I was strongly against. The semantics of the operator are agreed by everyone, but the name is under fight. - I'm sending a patch to GCC proposing __countof__, since overloading length for both string length and array number of elements is (IMO) going to promote off-by-one bugs in string-handling code (and I've shown two bug fixes for bugs that I found and fixed in shadow utils in which this precise ambiguous naming issue was present, so it's not just theoretical). That is, I'm trying GCC to force WG14 to change the name of the operator (which BTW was influenced by a survey conducted on programmers some of which declared hating C and not wanting to use it ever, so I refuse to acknowledge validity of the results of that survey; that survey also didn't inform of possible problems of each name). So basically, we're on a fight for the standard name of the operator. It seems that the names that have more serious support are - _Lengthof - _Countof - _Nelementsof - _Nelemsof Anything else can be just discarded, as they didn't receive many votes. Although I presonally would like anything that is not _Lengthof (or a derivative), whatever it is. > we use NELEM or NENTS for (sizeof(a) / sizeof((a)[0])) generally. Yup, I know. I think I prefer to keep a *of suffix for the operator for consistency with the other operators, which is why _Nelemsof was considered. > > >> and Unix/Plan9. > > yay! > > >Another thing I think would be interesting is to allow to choose a > >matrix of options: > > I pointed out in Fedi (also mostly contextless) to thephd that another > option is devotee-style preferential voting (Condorcet etc. and “none of > the above” and “further discussion” can be voted atop or in the middle > or below the options) for this kind of thing. +1 Have a lovely night! Alex -- <https://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>
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