Hi list, 

i figured out why the accuracy was so bad using the towgs84-Option:

the scaling was not in parts per million indicated

wrong scaling-specification:
---------------------------------------------
=> 1.00001651559

ogr2ogr -s_srs "+proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=6 +x_0=2500000 +y_0=0 
+ellps=bessel +units=m 
+towgs84=590.1181,99.6226,340.1890,1.185095,-1.334952,-2.904521,1.00001651559" 
-t_srs "+proj=utm 
+ellps=GRS80 +datum=WGS84 +zone=32" -f GML points_7P_gdal.gml points.gml



right scaling-specification:
---------------------------------------------
=> 16.51559 (ppm)

ogr2ogr -s_srs "+proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=6 +x_0=2500000 +y_0=0 
+ellps=bessel +units=m 
+towgs84=590.1181,99.6226,340.1890,1.185095,-1.334952,-2.904521,16.51559" 
-t_srs "+proj=utm 
+ellps=GRS80 +datum=WGS84 +zone=32" -f GML points_7P_gdal.gml points.gml

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results                                         |               difference
East[m]      |  North[m]                |       E           |      N        |  
distance
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
340408,046      5617072,499             -0,013  -0,012  0,018
342695,227      5614819,736             0,003   0,013   0,013
343584,887      5608927,612             0,014   0,026   0,030

=========
Accuracy:
=========
  ~ 0.3 m

Best Regards,
Greg


>----------  Weitergeleitete Nachricht  ----------
>
>Betreff: SRS-Transformation(DHDN/GK=>ETRS89/UTM) with towgs84 - Accuracy
>Datum: Mittwoch 04 März 2009
>Von: Gregor Fikoczek <gregor.fikoc...@wheregroup.com>
>An: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org
>
>
>Hi list, 
>
>i am trying to transform some point (in a gml-file) from DHDN/GK3 - srs  to 
>ETRS89/UTM - srs in some diferent ways:
>
>
>some points(gml-File) in start-srs
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Pointnr.            |          X[m]          |         Y[m]
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>5216100002 |   2552401,862    |        5616707,524
>5414100047 |   2554778,697    |        5614549,001
>5508100055 |   2555906,314    |        5608696,986
>
>some points(gml-File) in target-srs
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Punktnr.             |         East[m] |       North[m]
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>5216100002     32340408,033            5617072,487
>5414100047     32342695,230            5614819,749
>5508100055     32343584,901            5608927,638
>
>
>1.) using the srs defined in the proj-epsg-File:
>
>ogr2ogr -s_srs EPSG:31466 -t_srs EPSG:25832 -f GML points_etrs_gdal.gml 
>points.gml
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Results                                        |               difference
>East[m]             |  North[m]                |       E           |      N    
>    |  distance
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>340411,269  |  5617068,431     |       -3,236  |       4,056   |       5,188
>342698,445  |  5614815,708     |       -3,215  |       4,041   |       5,164
>343588,142  |  5608923,646     |       -3,241  |       3,992   |       5,142
>
>
>2.) using a nadgrid (BETA 2007)
>
>ogr2ogr -s_srs "+proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=6 +k=1.000000 +x_0=2500000 +y_0=0 
>+ellps=bessel +units=m +nadgrids=./BETA2007.gsb +wktext" -t_srs "+proj=utm 
>+ellps=GRS80 +datum=WGS84 +zone=32" -f GML points_BETA2007_gdal.gml 
>points.gml
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Results                                        |               difference
>East[m]             |  North[m]                |       E           |      N    
>    |  distance
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>340408,064  |  5617072,481     |       -0,031  |       0,006   |       0,031
>342695,246  |  5614819,723     |       -0,016  |       0,026   |       0,031
>343584,918  |  5608927,610     |       -0,017  |       0,028   |       0,033
>
>3.) using towgs-option (Transform-Parameter)
>
>ogr2ogr -s_srs "+proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=6 +x_0=2500000 +y_0=0 
>+ellps=bessel +units=m 
>+towgs84=590.1181,99.6226,340.1890,1.185095,-1.334952,-2.904521,1.00001651559" 
>-t_srs "+proj=utm 
>+ellps=GRS80 +datum=WGS84 +zone=32" -f GML points_7P_gdal.gml points.gml
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Results                                        |               difference
>East[m]             |  North[m]                |       E           |      N    
>    |  distance
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>340408,056  |  5617072,821     |       -0,023  |       -0,334  |       0,334
>342695,237  |  5614820,058     |       -0,007  |       -0,309  |       0,309
>343584,897  |  5608927,933     |       0,004   |       -0,295  |       0,295
>
>
>Parameter:
>dX     +590.1181m
>dY     +99.6226 m      
>dZ     +340.1890 m
>rX     +1.185095"
>rY     -1.334952"
>rZ     -2.904521"
>dm = 1.00001651559
>
>
>=========
>Accuracy:
>=========
>1.)  ~ 5m
>2.)  ~ 0.033 m
>3.)  ~ 0.3     m       <=== Why so bad ???
>
>The accurancy by using the towgs-option is worse then expected, i was 
>expecting ~ 0.02 m. Aspacielly the difference in North 
>(-0,334, -0,309, -0,295) is remarkable. 
>
>So maybe an algebraic sign is incorrect or what ever, anybody a suggestion?
>
>Best regards, 
>Greg
>


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Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards

Gregor Fikoczek



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53121 Bonn
Germany

Gregor Fikoczek
Email: gregor.fikoc...@wheregroup.com
Fon: +49 (0)228 / 90 90 38 - 25
Fax: +49 (0)228 / 90 90 38 - 11

i...@wheregroup.com
www.wheregroup.com
Amtsgericht Bonn, HRA 6788
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