It's already some time I worked with the WCS driver and then most of the time went into wondering the small differences between servers.

With https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs I can do this workflow:

1) gdalinfo "WCS:https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs";

..takes some time as it makes calls and then it stores into $HOME/.gdal/wcs_cache/
(note the version added to the URL)

- an entry into db: KfSWH=https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?version=2.0.1 - two files: KfSWH.xml and KfSWH.aux.xml, the first is the capabilities XML, the 2nd is GDAL aux XML

and prints gdalinfo output, which contains for example the subdatasets.
You'll get the same output, but faster, if you issue the above command again

From the subdataset list I can now pick one coverage.

2) gdalinfo "WCS:https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?version=2.0.1&coverage=nurc__Img_Sample";

.. takes again some time as it makes calls and then it stores new data into the cache

- cJLrY=https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?version=2.0.1&coverage=nurc__Img_Sample - three files: cJLrY.xml, cJLrY.xml.aux.xml, cJLrY.DC.xml, the first is the WCS_GDAL XML

and prints

ERROR 1: HTTP error code : 404
ERROR 1: InvalidSubsetting: Empty intersection after subsetting

so it probably needs some special switches, which are described in the documentation.

Best,

Ari

Rahkonen Jukka (MML) kirjoitti 11.11.2020 klo 23.55:

Hi,

Sorry, this is something that I am not familiar with. The developer of the WCS plugin probably could tell if it is at all supported to use the XML file as input like you tried. I wonder if Ari Jolma happens to follow the list. And what QGIS does is all mystery for me.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

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*Lähetetty:* keskiviikko 11. marraskuuta 2020 16.55
*Vastaanottaja:* Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <[email protected]>
*Aihe:* Re: gdal-dev Digest, Vol 198, Issue 14

Dear Jukka Rahkonen,

Thank you very much for your patience, time, and detailed information given to my questions. I appreciated it all.

In your discussion in [1], I could get the a xml sample [2].

In [3], you will get the whole image available in geoserver. And in [4], You will get the Image [3] subset.

My goal is to load [3] e [4], mainly [4] subset in QGIS, by adding a XML raster. It is important to mention that I am not interested in accessing the raster data through a WCS connection, I am actually adding a xml as a raster (Ctrl + Shift + R).

If you save the xml file in [2] or [5] and add to QGIS as raster data (Ctrl + Shift + R), you will get the image.

Now, the xml you find in [5] was created by just changing the tag values according  to your discussion in [1]. I could not find through gdal documentation how to generate this xml using gdal_translate. GDAL_WMTS driver stunningly does the job. See //gdal_translate"WMTS:http://maps.wien.gv.at/wmts/1.0.0/WMTSCapabilities.xml,layer=lb"wmts*.*xml*-*ofWMTS.

My need is to create a xml for [4] just like the one available in [5]. I need to access the image in [4] subset using GDAL_WCS.

The command line in [6] creates a tiff image, but I am looking for the xml that when loaded to QGIS ingest the WCS service and loads the image.

I wonder If there is a xml tag to the subset available in [4]. Or if there is a command line for gdal_translate that can generate XML in 3, and most importantly, generate a xml for the subset in [4], similar to gda GDAL_WMTS driver shown above.

Sorry for the long e-mail.  I have no words to thank you for your help and consideration of my messages.

Kinds Regards

Julierme

[1] https://geoserver-users.narkive.com/2FVEaNlm/define-geoserver-bounding-box-using-gdal-s-wcs-driver

[2] XML Sample

<WCS_GDAL>
  <ServiceURL>https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?version=2.0.1&amp;</ServiceURL>
  <CoverageName>nurc:mosaic</CoverageName>
<GetCoverageExtra>&amp;BoundingBox=6.346,36.492,20.83,46.591</GetCoverageExtra>
</WCS_GDAL>

[3]https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?Service=WCS

&version=2.0.1

&bbox=-130.85168,20.7052,-62.0054,54.1141

&request=GetCoverage

&coverageId=nurc:Img_Sample

&format=image/png

[4] https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?service=WCS <https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?service=WCS>

&version=2.0.1
&request=GetCoverage
&SubsettingCRS=EPSG:4326
&coverageId=nurc:Img_Sample
&SUBSET=Long(-100,-80)&SUBSET=Lat(30,40)
&format=image/png

[5] <WCS_GDAL>

  <ServiceURL>https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?version=2.0.1&amp;</ServiceURL>
  <CoverageName>nurc:Img_Sample</CoverageName>
<GetCoverageExtra>&amp;BoundingBox=-130.85168,20.7052,-62.0054,54.1141</GetCoverageExtra>
</WCS_GDAL>

[6] gdal_translate -oo CACHE=wcs_cache -oo CLEAR_CACHE -oo INTERLEAVE=PIXEL -projwin 377418 6683393.87938218 377717.879386966 6683094 -oo Subset="time(1985-01-01T00:00:00.000Z)" -outsize 60 0 "WCS:https://beta-karttakuva.maanmittauslaitos.fi/wcs/service/ows?version=2.0.1&coverage=ortokuva__ortokuva"; scaled.tiff

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 1:23 PM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi,

    Sending mail just to you because this is not a proper answer but
    rather some first-aid. Normally we keep the discussion on the list
    to other users can help, and get help by the same.

    Sorry, -spat is for ogr2ogr, in gdal_translate it is -projwin.
    Give the bbox coordinates as in the help:

           [-projwin ulx uly lrx lry]

    upper left x upper left y lower right x lower right y

    Hope that you get it to work but I may look at this deeper when I
    have better time for that.

    First step is to create the XML file. Then test is with gdalinfo,
    when it reports something that makes sense you can continue with
    gdal_translate and all the standard options that it has.

    WCS 2.0 is pretty easy to use also with plain hand written http
    requests, read the standard for learning. I would forget older
    versions.

    Test URL for you
    
https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?SERVICE=WCS&REQUEST=GetCoverage&VERSION=2.0.1&CoverageId=nurc__mosaic&subset=Long(8.0,8.1)&subset=Lat(38,38.1)&format=tiff

    Unfortunately the server was down earlier today, I hope it works now.

    -Jukka-

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    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Lähetetty:* tiistai 10. marraskuuta 2020 18.10
    *Vastaanottaja:* [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>; Rahkonen Jukka (MML)
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Aihe:* Re: gdal-dev Digest, Vol 198, Issue 14

    Dear Jukka Rahkonen,

    Thank you very much for your reply.

    First of all, my apologies for my lack of knowledge about using
    GDAL_WCS driver. Let me give more details about the issues I am
    facing.

    Extract of
    http://172.21.14.45:8181/geoserver/ows/wcs?request=GetCapabilities
    is shown in [1].

    Regarding gdal_translate GDAL_WCS driver Image subset extract,
    looking at https://gdal.org/drivers/raster/wcs.html#examples, I
    tried the following:

    Similar to GDAL_WMTS
    
<gdal_translate"WMTS:http://maps.wien.gv.at/wmts/1.0.0/WMTSCapabilities.xml,layer=lb"wmts*.*xml*-*ofWMTS>,

    I tried running:

    (1)

     gdal_translate
    
"WCS:http://172.21.14.45:8181/geoserver/wcs?version=2.0.1&coverage=deter-amazonia__CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020";
    CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020.xml

    *The response:* I did not get the xml as wmts.xml showed above

    Note: Including the -of option (WCS), the outcome fails

    (2)

    gdal_translate
    
"WCS:http://172.21.14.45:8181/geoserver/ows/wcs?request=GetCapabilities&coverage=deter-amazonia__CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020";
    \
    -spat -58 -11 -57.75 -10.7 \
    CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020.xml

    *The response:* There is no -spat option for gdal_translate

    *gdal_translate --help*

    Usage: gdal_translate [--help-general] [--long-usage]
           [-ot {Byte/Int16/UInt16/UInt32/Int32/Float32/Float64/
                 CInt16/CInt32/CFloat32/CFloat64}] [-strict]
           [-of format] [-b band] [-mask band] [-expand {gray|rgb|rgba}]
           [-outsize xsize[%]|0 ysize[%]|0] [-tr xres yres]
           [-r {nearest,bilinear,cubic,cubicspline,lanczos,average,mode}]
           [-unscale] [-scale[_bn] [src_min src_max [dst_min
    dst_max]]]* [-exponent[_bn] exp_val]*
           [-srcwin xoff yoff xsize ysize] [-epo] [-eco]
           [-projwin ulx uly lrx lry] [-projwin_srs srs_def]
           [-a_srs srs_def] [-a_ullr ulx uly lrx lry] [-a_nodata value]
           [-a_scale value] [-a_offset value]
           [-nogcp] [-gcp pixel line easting northing [elevation]]*
           |-colorinterp{_bn} {red|green|blue|alpha|gray|undefined}]
           |-colorinterp {red|green|blue|alpha|gray|undefined},...]
           [-mo "META-TAG=VALUE"]* [-q] [-sds]
           [-co "NAME=VALUE"]* [-stats] [-norat]
           [-oo NAME=VALUE]*
           src_dataset dst_dataset

    [1] WCS GetCapabilities request

    <wcs:CoverageSummary>

    <ows:Title>CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020</ows:Title>

    <ows:Abstract>Generated from GeoTIFF</ows:Abstract>

    <ows:Keywords>

    <ows:Keyword>deter-amazonia-CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020</ows:Keyword>

    <ows:Keyword>WCS</ows:Keyword>

    <ows:Keyword>GeoTIFF</ows:Keyword>

    </ows:Keywords>

    
<wcs:CoverageId>deter-amazonia__CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020</wcs:CoverageId>

    <wcs:CoverageSubtype>RectifiedGridCoverage</wcs:CoverageSubtype>

    <ows:WGS84BoundingBox>

    <ows:LowerCorner>-63.280290728152664
    -13.794296142085976</ows:LowerCorner>

    <ows:UpperCorner>-53.624004749255874
    -5.636644661059637</ows:UpperCorner>

    </ows:WGS84BoundingBox>

    <ows:BoundingBox crs="http://www.opengis.net/def/crs/EPSG/0/EPSG:4326";>

    <ows:LowerCorner>-63.280290728152664
    -13.794296142085976</ows:LowerCorner>

    <ows:UpperCorner>-53.624004749255874
    -5.636644661059637</ows:UpperCorner>

    </ows:BoundingBox>

    </wcs:CoverageSummary>

    Any comment will be very appreciated.

    GDAL website <https://gdal.org/drivers/raster/wmts.html> provides
    examples on how to run GDAL_WMTS driver in order to get a wmts xml
    file. I have looked in https://gdal.org/drivers/raster/wcs.html
    and could not find an example pointing to -spat option.  I got an
    -spat option

    togdal_grid
    
<https://gdal.org/programs/gdal_grid.html?highlight=spat#cmdoption-gdal_grid-spat>
    though.

    gdal_translate
    
"WMTS:http://maps.wien.gv.at/wmts/1.0.0/WMTSCapabilities.xml,layer=lb"wmts*.*xml
    *-*of WMTS

    gdal_translate
    
"WCS:http://www.dpi.inpe.br/fipcerrado-geoserver/ows/wcs?request=GetCapabilities";
    \

    -oo CoverageName=deter-cerrado:CBERS-4_AWFI_161_099_13072018
    CBERS-4_AWFI_161_099_13072018.xml -of WCS

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           3. Re: WCS_GDAL Driver Image SubSet Request (jratike80)


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        Message: 1
        Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:09:45 +0100
        From: Even Rouault <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Cc: "Rahkonen Jukka (MML)"
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] Selecting just the geometry column
        with OGR
                SQL
        Message-ID: <1659214.2tRo4lr4Oo@even-i700
        <mailto:1659214.2tRo4lr4Oo@even-i700>>
        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

        Jukka,

        > I believe that OGR SQL dialect adds the geometry column into
        SQL selection
        > by default. Am I right with this? I volunteer to edit the
        documentation
        > https://gdal.org/user/ogr_sql_dialect.html if this is the
        case. But what I
        > can't understand is another side of the story, how to select
        just the
        > geometry field with OGR SQL dialect from some data sources.
        >
        > This command returns both time column and geometry from GML
        > ogrinfo -sql "select time from timetest" timetest.gml
        > I can select just the geometry from geometry column named as
        > "geometryProperty" by ogrinfo -sql "select geometryProperty
        from timetest"
        > timetest.gml
        >
        > The behavior is the same with SpatiaLite when I use
        "-dialect OGRSQL".
        > Geometry is selected automatically but it can be selected
        also by name. But
        > I cannot discover any way to select just the geometry field
        from shapefile.
        > Is it because geometry column in shapefile does not have any
        name as this
        > Python test seems to prove?
        > >>> from osgeo import ogr
        > >>> shp_ds = ogr.Open('timetest.shp')
        > >>> shp_lyr = shp_ds.GetLayer(0)
        > >>> shp_lyr.GetGeometryColumn()
        >
        > ''
        >
        > OpenJUMP JML driver does not report a name for geometry
        column either. Is it
        > rather an exception that drivers give names for the geometry
        columns? I
        > know I can select only the geometry column with the SQLite
        dialect, but I
        > am curious.

        Indeed, in OGR SQL, if the geometry column has a non-empty
        name (typically for
        database drivers), you can use it to select it. When the
        geometry column name
        is empty, such as in the shapefile or OpenJUMP driver, you can
        use
        _ogr_geometry_ (with leading and trainling underscore) to
        select it. This is
        likely undocumented.

        As far as I can see, this was introduced per
        
https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/commit/1519dcb00bd7802d2f701114f0e1cb9b524a547f
        to fix an issue with comparison with empty string literals
        (this was before
        OGR enforced the difference between single-quoted string
        literals and double-
        quoted identifiers)

        Even

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        Message: 2
        Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:35:11 +0000
        From: "Rahkonen Jukka (MML)"
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        To: Even Rouault <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>,
                "[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] Selecting just the geometry column
        with OGR
                SQL
        Message-ID:
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

        Even Rouault wrote:
        maanantai 9. marraskuuta 2020 17.10

        > Jukka,

        >> I believe that OGR SQL dialect adds the geometry column
        into SQL
        >> selection by default. Am I right with this? I volunteer to
        edit the
        >> documentation https://gdal.org/user/ogr_sql_dialect.html
        <https://gdal.org/user/ogr_sql_dialect.html> if this is
        >> the case. But what I can't understand is another side of
        the story,
        >> how to select just the geometry field with OGR SQL dialect
        from some data sources.
        >>
        >> This command returns both time column and geometry from GML
        ogrinfo
        >> -sql "select time from timetest" timetest.gml I can select
        just the
        >> geometry from geometry column named as "geometryProperty"
        by ogrinfo
        >> -sql "select geometryProperty from timetest"
        >> timetest.gml
        >>
        >> The behavior is the same with SpatiaLite when I use
        "-dialect OGRSQL".
        >> Geometry is selected automatically but it can be selected
        also by
        >> name. But I cannot discover any way to select just the
        geometry field from shapefile.
        >> Is it because geometry column in shapefile does not have
        any name as
        >> this Python test seems to prove?
        >> >>> from osgeo import ogr
        >> >>> shp_ds = ogr.Open('timetest.shp')
        >> >>> shp_lyr = shp_ds.GetLayer(0)
        >> >>> shp_lyr.GetGeometryColumn()
        >>
        >> ''
        >>
        >> OpenJUMP JML driver does not report a name for geometry
        column either.
        >> Is it rather an exception that drivers give names for the
        geometry
        >> columns? I know I can select only the geometry column with
        the SQLite
        >> dialect, but I am curious.

        > Indeed, in OGR SQL, if the geometry column has a nonempty
        name (typically for
        > database drivers), you can use it to select it. When the
        geometry column name
        > is empty, such as in the shapefile or OpenJUMP driver, you
        can use
        > _ogr_geometry_ (with leading and trainling underscore) to
        select it. This is likely undocumented.

        > As far as I can see, this was introduced per
        >
        
https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/commit/1519dcb00bd7802d2f701114f0e1cb9b524a547f
        > to fix an issue with comparison with empty string literals
        (this was before OGR enforced the
        >  difference between single-quoted string literals and
        double- quoted identifiers)

        I could not manage to guess the right syntax for Windows right
        ahead but solved the quiz easily
        with your double-quote hint

        First trial:
        ogrinfo -sql "select _ogr_geometry_ from timetest" timetest.shp
        INFO: Open of `timetest.shp'
              using driver `ESRI Shapefile' successful.
        ERROR 1: SQL Expression Parsing Error: syntax error,
        unexpected $undefined. Occurred around :
        select _ogr_geometry_ from timetest

        Second trial:
        ogrinfo -sql "select \"_ogr_geometry_\" from timetest"
        timetest.shp

        -Jukka-

        > Even

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        Message: 3
        Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:47:05 -0700 (MST)
        From: jratike80 <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] WCS_GDAL Driver Image SubSet Request
        Message-ID: <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

        Hi,

        Do you want to make is somehow impossible to request data
        beyound the
        BoundingBox that you defined in the XML file? If you just want
        to get data
        from the rectangle that you or your users define,
        gdal_translate with the
        regular -spat option should work out-of-the-box.

        -Jukka Rahkonen-


        juliermeopensourcedeveloper wrote
        > Hi all,
        >
        > Is it possible to define a bounding box in order to request
        a coverage
        > subset using the GDAL WCS Driver?
        > I have tried the code in [1]. I  am trying to get
        information only for the
        > bbox_interest=( -58,-11,-57.75,-10.75) as shown below,
        however the subset
        > image or bbox_interest request has not been delivered. The
        West Longitude
        > reaches -50.17 and The Lower Latitude reaches -18.92 which
        are limits out
        > of the bbox_interest.
        > The image extent is:
        > <GetCoverageExtra>
        >
        
&amp;BoundingBox=-63.280290728152664,-13.794296142085976,-53.624004749255874,-5.636644661059637
        > </GetCoverageExtra>
        >  Any comment on this issue will be greatly appreciated.
        > Thank you very much for your time in advance.
        > *CODE [1]:*
        > <WCS_GDAL>
        > <ServiceURL>
        > http://172.21.14.45:6060/geoserver/wcs?version=1.0.0&amp;
        > </
        > ServiceURL>
        > <CoverageName>
        > cbers_deter_amazonia:CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020
        > </
        > CoverageName>
        > <GetCoverageExtra>
        > &amp;BoundingBox=-58,-11,-57.75,-10.75
        > </GetCoverageExtra>
        > <CoverageOffering>
        > <description>
        > Generated from GeoTIFF
        > </description>
        > <name>
        > cbers_deter_amazonia:CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020
        > </name>
        > <label>
        > CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020
        > </label>
        > <lonLatEnvelope srsName="urn:ogc:def:crs:OGC:1.3:CRS84">
        > <pos>
        > -58 -11
        > </pos>
        > <pos>
        > -57.75 -10.75
        > </pos>
        > </lonLatEnvelope>
        > <keywords>
        > <keyword>
        > WCS
        > </keyword>
        > <keyword>
        > GeoTIFF
        > </keyword>
        > </keywords>
        > <domainSet>
        > <spatialDomain>
        > <Envelope srsName="EPSG:4326">
        > <pos>
        > -58 -11
        > </pos>
        > <pos>
        > -57.75 -10.75
        > </pos>
        > </Envelope>
        > <RectifiedGrid dimension="2" srsName="EPSG:4326">
        > <limits>
        > <GridEnvelope>
        > <low>
        > 0 0
        > </low>
        > <high>
        > 0 0
        > </high>
        > </GridEnvelope>
        > </limits>
        > <axisName>
        > x
        > </axisName>
        > <axisName>
        > y
        > </axisName>
        > <origin>
        > <pos>
        > -58 -10.75
        > </pos>
        > </origin>
        > <offsetVector>
        > 0.005364603321609328 0.0
        > </offsetVector>
        > <offsetVector>
        > 0.0 -0.004532028600570188
        > </offsetVector>
        > </RectifiedGrid>
        > </spatialDomain>
        > </domainSet>
        > <rangeSet>
        > <RangeSet>
        > <name>
        > CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020
        > </name>
        > <label>
        > CBERS-4_AWFI_170_111_21052020
        > </label>
        > <axisDescription>
        > <AxisDescription>
        > <name>
        > Band
        > </name>
        > <label>
        > Band
        > </label>
        > <values>
        > <interval>
        > <min>
        > 1
        > </min>
        > <max>
        > 4
        > </max>
        > </interval>
        > </values>
        > </AxisDescription>
        > </axisDescription>
        > </RangeSet>
        > </rangeSet>
        > <supportedCRSs>
        > <requestResponseCRSs>
        > EPSG:4326
        > </requestResponseCRSs>
        > </supportedCRSs>
        > <supportedFormats nativeFormat="GeoTIFF">
        > <formats>
        > GeoTIFF
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