On 1/1/2021 9:47 PM, Richard Greenwood wrote:
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 2:36 PM Stephen Woodbridge <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I'm contouring bathemetry data using gdal_contour and it works really
    great. The problem I have is that when depth falls off rapidly
    like at
    the continental shelf or into a canyon, I get too many contour lines
    that all bunch up. If I change the contour step size to fix this,
    then
    the flatter areas don't get enough lines.

    I wonder if anyone has any ideas on someway to thin these lines or
    some
    way to do adaptive contouring based on maybe something like
    scanning the
    image first to build a masks that represent these rapid changes in
    depth
    and then change the contour levels in these masked areas.

    I currently contour into a postgis database, the render them using
    mapserver into a tile cache since they are static once they are
    computed.

    I would be interested in any ideas you might have on how to tackle
    this
    problem.

    -Steve W


Hey Steve,

Interesting problem and this isn't an answer, just my opinion. I live and play in a mountainous area and frequently use USGS topo maps with contour intervals of 20, 40 and 80 feet. Each map's contour interval was chosen with criteria like yours - flatter land needs smaller contour intervals, but steeper land can become too cluttered with a small contour interval. But as a map user it drives me crazy when I stitch together adjoining maps with different intervals and try to get a sense of the landscape. Like this for example <https://greenwoodmap.com/tetonwy/mapserver/map#zcr=7.279815109511815/2448564.5062904786/1516712.6778719614/0&lyrs=DRG,Roads,ownership> where 20 foot contours adjoin 80 foot. The western half of the map is much steeper than the eastern, but that's not obvious from a quick look. I'd just let the bunched up contours tell the reader that hey, it's really steep here!

Best regards,
Rich

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Richard W. Greenwood, PLS
www.greenwoodmap.com <http://www.greenwoodmap.com>

Hi Rich,

Yeah, I get your point. And the engineer in me agrees but users of the map have complained so I have to at least look into the issue.

One thought I had that might work because I'm dealing with ocean bottom contours is to do something like:

a) take all contours above X
b) take all contours below Y
c) take every Nth contour between X and Y

This would probably work OK for the drop off on the continental shelf at least for the East coast, I'd have to look at other areas since this is a global map, but 98% of the users are on the East coast currently but that is expanding.

Anyway, it is an interesting problem, I'd like to find a simple solution that I can build into the postGIS database where I have all the contour lines stored. Or find a solution that handles the generation of the contour lines with some kind of adaptive thinning. My guess is that it will not be easy to do it at the generation level, so I'll probably only be able to do the thinning during the rendering of the tiles.

Thank you for your thoughts on this,
-Steve
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