I have submitted a pull request for my draft solutions.  
https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/pull/15033

It is probably a good idea to switch the discussion of this issue to github.
Tom


On Thu, Aug 13, 2026, at 7:53 AM, Even Rouault wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> yes FindMatches() is what is needed for your use case and it is not currently 
> available in the Java bindings. That would require someone to write the 
> appropriate typemap(s) to map the C types to Java types.
> 
> Even
> 
> Le 13/08/2026 à 13:15, Tom Moore via gdal-dev a écrit :
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm running into a case where SpatialReference.AutoIdentifyEPSG() fails on a 
>> completely standard, well-formed ESRI-dialect .prj file, even though the 
>> underlying PROJ identification machinery (proj_identify(), as exercised via 
>> "projinfo --identify") resolves it correctly with 100% confidence. I'd like 
>> to know whether this is a known limitation, and whether there's a 
>> recommended workaround for Java bindings users specifically, since 
>> FindMatches() isn't exposed there.
>> 
>> Environment:
>> - GDAL 3.11.1 (Windows build)
>> - PROJ 9.6.2
>> - Java bindings (org.gdal.osr / SWIG)
>> 
>> Input WKT (contents of a shapefile .prj, ESRI dialect):
>> 
>> PROJCS["NAD_1983_UTM_Zone_11N",GEOGCS["GCS_North_American_1983",DATUM["D_North_American_1983",SPHEROID["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0.0],UNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433]],PROJECTION["Transverse_Mercator"],PARAMETER["False_Easting",500000.0],PARAMETER["False_Northing",0.0],PARAMETER["Central_Meridian",-117.0],PARAMETER["Scale_Factor",0.9996],PARAMETER["Latitude_Of_Origin",0.0],UNIT["Meter",1.0]]
>> 
>> QGIS correctly identifies this as EPSG:26911.
>> 
>> What I tried (Java):
>> 
>>     SpatialReference srs = new SpatialReference();
>>     srs.ImportFromESRI(lines);   // also tried plain ImportFromWkt() but got 
>> the same result
>>     srs.SetAxisMappingStrategy(osrConstants.OAMS_TRADITIONAL_GIS_ORDER);
>> 
>>     try {
>>         srs.AutoIdentifyEPSG();
>>     } catch (Exception ex) {
>>         System.out.println("Exception: " + ex.getMessage());
>>     }
>>     System.out.println("code = " + srs.GetAuthorityCode(null));
>> 
>> Result:
>> 
>>     Exception: OGR Error: Unsupported SRS
>>     code = null
>> 
>> gdal.GetLastErrorType() / GetLastErrorMsg() are empty.  No additional 
>> diagnostic detail is surfaced beyond the generic exception.
>> 
>> I ruled out several things before suspecting this is a AutoIdentifyEPSG() 
>> limitation rather than an environment/config issue on my end:
>> 
>> 1. proj.db itself is correct.  Confirmed by mounting the exact same proj.db 
>> (from the PROJ 9 data directory used by my JAva app) into a clean 
>> ghcr.io/osgeo/gdal:ubuntu-small-latest container and running `gdalsrsinfo 
>> -e` against the same .prj file. It resolved to EPSG:26911 correctly, full 
>> WKT2 with all authority IDs.
>> 2. PROJ_LIB / PROJ_DATA environment variables are set correctly and 
>> confirmed using System.getenv() to be visible to the process
>> 3. Tried MorphFromESRI() (both via ImportFromESRI() alone, and combined with 
>> an explicit MorphFromESRI() call) - no change.
>> 4. Tried explicit SetAxisMappingStrategy(OAMS_TRADITIONAL_GIS_ORDER) before 
>> calling AutoIdentifyEPSG() - no change.
>> 5. Ran the projinfo.exe from the gdal build that I am using with the Java 
>> app directly against the same .prj file:
>> 
>>     projinfo.exe --identify fmu.prj
>>     ...
>>     Identification match count: 1
>>     EPSG:26911: 100 %
>> 
>> So proj_identify() / FindMatches()-equivalent logic resolves this WKT 
>> perfectly in the exact same native build, but AutoIdentifyEPSG() fails on it.
>> 
>> This looks consistent with a few things I found in the tracker/mailing list 
>> archives while investigating:
>> 
>> - https://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/ticket/6188 -- maintainer comment noting 
>> AutoIdentifyEPSG() has "very limited capabilities" and would need fuzzy 
>> matching to handle inexact datum/ellipsoid names, "especially when dealing 
>> with WKT coming from ESRI." 
>> - https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/issues/4038 -- near-identical repro WKT 
>> (ESRI-dialect UTM), with a maintainer noting AutoIdentifyEPSG() can return 
>> OGRERR_UNSUPPORTED_SRS while having still injected partial AUTHORITY tags 
>> into sub-nodes.  This matches what I see when printing the WKT after the 
>> failed call (DATUM gets EPSG:6269, but the top-level PROJCS never gets an 
>> ID).
>> - https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/issues/2303 -- shows the standard Python 
>> workaround (fall back to FindMatches() when AutoIdentifyEPSG() fails), which 
>> leads to my second question below.
>> 
>> Questions:
>> 
>> 1. Is AutoIdentifyEPSG() failing on this ESRI-dialect NAD83/UTM WKT a known 
>> limitation, or does this look like a genuine regression/bug worth filing?
>> 2. FindMatches() does not appear to be exposed in the Java SWIG bindings 
>> (org.gdal.osr.SpatialReference).  Is that correct, or am I missing 
>> something? If it's genuinely absent, is there any appetite for adding it, 
>> given it's the documented fallback for exactly this situation in other 
>> language bindings?
>> 3. Short of shelling out to "projinfo --identify" as a subprocess, is there 
>> a recommended in-process approach for Java bindings users to reach the same 
>> identification logic?
>> 
>> Happy to provide a minimal reproducible test case / file a tracker issue if 
>> that's useful, but I wanted to check here first in case this is already 
>> understood behavior.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>> 
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