Doug and Yuri,

Thank for the photos and excellent explanation.  I will put it to good use.


Sincerely,
David Macias


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Gecko] humidity range for klemeri eggs


> David...
>
> I've included a picture of my incubator setup. I don't bother putting
> water in the chambers in the bottom because my eggs are in deli cups
> which maintain a mini environment of their own. Remember... these
> incubators were designed for use with chicken eggs. Chicken eggs are
> kept open in the incubator so adding water to the bottom helps them.
> Also, the mesh keeps chicks from falling into the water, but it would
> not stop a hatchling P. klemmeri!!! I also keep a digital temp/humidity
> meter in the incubator. Once you've seen a few eggs, you will start
> being able to tell from the look. However, regardless of look I still
> put them in the incubator. I don't throw any egg out until it is fully
> bad and collapsed. If they are bad, they will deteriorate within a
> couple weeks. If good, they will start taking on a pinkish color a
> couple weeks after being laid as the embryo starts developing. At this
> stage, you should be able to see some vascularization if you candle them
> properly. At the later stages, the eggs become darker in coloration as
> the embryo fills the egg to capacity. You will be amazed at the size of
> hatchling that actually comes out of that egg! Now, just for fun, I've
> also included a picture of a P. klemmeri just emerging from the egg.
> BTW... P. klemmeri will hatch within 40 - 65 days. Good luck!
>
> David Macias wrote:
> >
> > Julie, Steven, and Doug,
> >
> > Thank you for your tips.  I received my Hovabator yesterday morning and tested it 
>for 10 hours
and
> > it maintained the temperature quite well.  The Hovabator has a section on the 
>bottom to put
water
> > for added humidity, so Doug, since you are using the same incubator, do you use 
>the wet sphagnum
> > instead of adding water or do you frown on using water in order to reduce possible 
>drowning of
gecko
> > hatchling if it was to fall on it?  The humidity with this added water has been a 
>constant 70%
and I
> > don't know how to increase it without closing all the vent holes which I don't 
>know if I should
do?
> > Because of what I've been told, keeping the eggs in the higher 80 degree range 
>will produce
males,
> > is this correct?  Lower 70's females, is this correct?  Finally, is there a way to 
>tell if the
eggs
> > are good, i.e. putting a light under the eggs etc..... what should I be looking 
>for?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David Macias
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julie Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Gecko] humidity range for klemeri eggs
> >
> > > I use about 50-70% for P. klemmeri.
> > >
> > > Julie Bergman
> --
> Doug Johnston
> www.ncal.verio.com/~scubadug


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