Neil,

You said that since the crickets rub off much of the D3, you were not really
worried about oversupplementation.  You never mentioned how often you
actually dust the crickets.  I'm afraid that supplementing with this
"vitamin" can become a little tricky.  I'll be the first to tell you that I
have no idea how much D3 my geckos need, but I know that it is important in
the regulation of calcium in the blood.  I know that humans only need
minimal exposure, 5 minutes on face and hands a day, in order to get enough
D3 to produce calcitriol, but I have absolutely no idea with geckos,
nocturnal or diurnal.  I wonder if it is the same with reptiles.  On another
forum, a gentleman mentioned that the powdered form was not readily absorbed
by reptiles, but I wonder what happens to it.  Does it simply pass through
their bodies unchanged?  I guess that's possible, but don't go tell him that
I said that!  I guess you are wondering if I actually have a point
here....Umm....Well, I believe that UV lights placed above an enclosure will
give geckos enough light for D3 synthesis.  Am I right?  I have no earthly
idea.  If anyone can prove to me that supplementation of D3 via powder or
liquid is necessary in a captive environment, I"ll definitely do what's best
for the lizards.  Like all of you, this is a lifelong passion and I will do
my best to give my geckos the proper care that they deserve.

Nathan S. Hall
GECKOS UNLIMITED
www.geckosunlimited.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Neil A. Meister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Gecko] Uroplatus and Vit D3


> Hi Robert,
>
> I have chosen a middle of the road approach
> as I haven't heard of anything convincing regarding
> the pros and cons of D3 and Uroplatus. Uroplatus often
> sleep exposed to sunlight, so the matter of them being
> nocturnal is not a valid argument for not offering UVB
> and/or D3 supplements. I use Miner-All I for most
> feedings and weak lights (vitalites) directly on top of
> the enclosures. Other bulbs are likely better, but are
> not available at a reasonable price here.
>
> Crickets often rub off some of their supplements, so
> I don't worry too much about overdosing on D3. Of major
> importance with this group is adequate calcium for
> breeding females. Dusting food alone does not do it in the
> long run.
>
> I have maintained U. henkeli for 6 years using a combination
> of vitalites and supplements. I have also raised many hatchlings
> using only supplements.
>
> Neil
>
> >What is everyone's opinion on Uroplatus and Vit. D3
> >supplementing? Is a UV bulb enough? How often should
> >D3 be given if in the powder form? What does the term
> >"hard bones" mean in this case?
> >
> >Robert
> >
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