Ok then. I will continue the calcium dusting with a dish left for browsing. That shouldn't be a big deal. But I will have to think more about switching calcium supplements. I kinda like Rept-cal. It seems to work the best of all the calcium I've tried.
 
The good news is she passed a small amount of sand today with no apparent side effects. Let's hope there is more to come.
 
Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [gecko]Sand impaction

Mike---

"Human quality" 100% pure calcium carbonate can be purchased/ordered at some pharmacies as a human dietary supplement, so it would seem to be safe for geckos.  I've a 12 ounce container (NOW brand) that I purchased recently for $2.99 US.  The only difficulty I've found is that it is super fine, but I don't see that this would pose a problem for calcium left in a dish.

Elizabeth


Subj: Re: [gecko]Sand impaction
Date: 3/24/04 11:14:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Mike,

I have switched over to lower D3 ratio supplements like the T-Rex ICB
(Insect Cricket Balancer) and Dr. Susan Donoghue's (herpnutrition.com)
low D3 supplement. I have no problem feeding all kinds of geckos this
everyday. They should get more than just calcium by itself. It is wise
to leave a dish of pure calcium carbonate out for females, Susan has
that in stock.

Julie B.

maleldil wrote:

> Thanks, Elizabeth,
>  
> Currently I have the gecko on a paper towel in the hatching rack. She
> was healthy and normal sized to begin with because she was actually
> produced by my breeders last year. She is close to adult size which is
> why I moved her to the regular enclosure. In fact aside from the bony
> pelvis, she is still thick and normal sized. With all the talk about
> calcium overdosing, I switched from dusting every feeding to leaving a
> calcium dish out for the geckos. I can always go back to the regular
> dusting.
>  
> Anyway, I will have to see how things go from here.
>  
> Mike
>  
> Hi Mike---
>
> First I'd recommend paper towels as a substrate for these small
> geckos.  Was this "sick" animal healthy and normal-sized to begin
> with?  Are you dusting their crickets with phosphorus-free calcium
> with D3 at every feeding?
>
> I've experienced two rectal prolapses with a 15 gm gecko who passed
> very small amounts of sand several weeks after each prolapse.  Each
> time this necessitated trips to the nearby ER in the middle of the
> night and ultimately x-rays!  The vet recommended feeding only chicken
> baby food for awhile (which was fed by hand on the gecko's lips),
> using CatLax on the geckos' lips to soften any stools passed, and a
> tepid water soak once daily.  The gecko recovered both times and seems
> to be doing well now!
>
> I hope this advice is not too late for your young Agamura persica.
>
> Elizabeth
>
>>     Subj: [gecko]Sand impaction
>>     Date: 3/23/04 7:03:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>     From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (maleldil)
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>>     This topic comes up quite a bit and I tried to find something in the
>>     archives but no luck.
>>
>>     While feeding my young spider geckos I found one with a "boney"
>>     pelvis. I
>>     picked her up and felt her abdomen and it has a hard mass in it.
>>     I keep them
>>     on sand. I felt the "healthy" female's abdomen to be sure and it
>>     did not
>>     have that hard lump. This "sick" female does have mass in her
>>     tail and is
>>     very energetic so I have found the impaction early. I thought it
>>     might be an
>>     egg but I know this is not likely. I put a cricket in her mouth
>>     last night
>>     as she bit me for picking her up and sure enough, it was vomited
>>     up this
>>     evening. I give her vegetable oil and I soak her in warm baths. I
>>     am just
>>     waiting for the sand to pass. My question is, what else is there
>>     that I can
>>     do for this gecko? I was thinking I should try the vet but aside
>>     from warm
>>     baths and oil or water, there isn't much left to do but surgery.
>>     Can a
>>     little 5 gram gecko be cut open by the vet so the sand can be
>>     removed? What
>>     other sorts of things do vets do to eliminate impactions?
>>
>>     Any experiences would be good. I would like to know how vets
>>     usually handle
>>     impactions in small geckos.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Mike




Elizabeth
Seattle


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